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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention update, 01 Mar 2002
<pout> I guess that disqualifies the Typhoon sub I got from the ruskies
last year. <pout>
Carl
Ray Keefer wrote:
>
> Hi Herve,
>
> Below are some guildlines. If you still unsure then tell me the sub with
> pics, web pointers, what ever and I can decide on a case by case basis.
> For the most part we are open to all submersibles except the the high
> end scientific subs.
>
> The mission of PSUBS is:
>
> To promote and encourage the discussion, design,
> construction, certification, ownership and use of
> Personal Submersibles.
>
> A sub does not have to be built by an individual. Just simple enough to
> be conceivably built by an individual. A titanium forged hull would
> be outside that definition. Steel, aluminum, fiberglass, plywood are fine.
>
> Any submersible that can be conceivably owned by an individual is fair
> game too. I think a multi million dollar submersible would push the envelope
> a too far. As much as I would love to see Alvin in operatation it is simply
> out of the personal submersible class. Half a million dollars is still a
> stretch but lets use that as the upper limit. Any submersible that
> is built by a company and can be purchased for under $500,000 for personal
> use is fair game.
>
> One big rule, all subs have to have passed their manned tests before being
> allowed to come. Please no maiden dives. Make sure it works before you
> bring it.
>
> Regards,
> Ray
>
> > From: "Herve" <caribsub@coqui.net>
> > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention update, 01 Mar 2002
> > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:05:57 -0400
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> > Hi,
> > is the convention regata opened to subs built by companies or is it only
> > personal subs
> > Herve Jaubert
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ray Keefer" <Ray.Keefer@Sun.COM>
> > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 1:34 AM
> > Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Convention update, 01 Mar 2002
> >
> >
> > > PSUBS 1st Annual Convention Update
> > > Date: 01 Mar 2002
> > >
> > > This page is a dedicated to the 1st Annual PSUBS Convention.
> > > [The canceled one from last year doesn't count.]
> > >
> > > Index
> > > =====
> > > Itinerary
> > > Regatta
> > > Meeting
> > > OMSI
> > > Attendees
> > > Crew
> > > Photos
> > > Location
> > > Motels
> > > Sponsors
> > > Costs
> > > Regatta Rules and Procedures
> > > Rules
> > > Emergency Procedures and Safety Precautions
> > > Tasks
> > >
> > > Itinerary
> > > =========
> > >
> > > In the Portland, Oregon, USA metropolitan area.
> > >
> > > Friday, 16 August 2002 Regatta, PSUBS meet on lake to dive
> > > Saturday, 17 August 2002 Meeting, meet in conference for meeting
> > > Sunday, 18 August 2002 OMSI, visit USS Blueback
> > >
> > > Regatta
> > > -----
> > > 0900-1000 Registration
> > > 1000-1100 Launch PSUBS
> > > 1100-1200 Subs diving
> > > 1200-1300 Lunch
> > > 1300-1400 Timed trials/competition
> > > 1400-1500 Subs diving
> > >
> > > Meeting
> > > ------
> > > 0800-0900 Registration
> > > 0900-0910 Welcome
> > > 0910-1000 Event 1 Speaker/presentations/session
> > > 1000-1050 Event 2 Speaker/presentations/session
> > > 1100-1150 Event 3 Speaker/presentations/session
> > > 1150-1300 Lunch Submarine sandwiches/soda/chips/talk
> > > 1300-1350 Event 4 Speaker/presentations/session
> > > 1400-1450 Event 5 Speaker/presentations/session
> > > 1500-1550 Event 6 Speaker/presentations/session
> > >
> > > OMSI
> > > ----
> > > Visit USS Blueback, the last USN Diesel-Electric submarine at
> > > OMSI (Oregon Museum of Science and Industry)
> > >
> > > ????-???? Techo Tour of USS Blueback
> > >
> > >
> > > Attendees (planned)
> > > ==============
> > >
> > > Name E-mail ## OMSI Sub Mtg Reg Notes
> > > --------------- ----------------------- -- ---- --- --- --- -------
> > > Ian Roxborough irox@evilpeople.com 1 1 0 1 0
> > > Alec Smyth Asmyth@changepoint.com 1 1 0 1 0 Support
> > > diver
> > > John R. Farrington jrf@austin.ibm.com 0 0 0 0 0
> > > Dale Heinzig heinzind@cadvision.com 2 2 ? 2 2
> > > David Deffner deffner@glade.net 1 1 0 1 1
> > > Ray Keefer ray.keefer@sun.com 3 2 0 3 3
> > >
> > > ## = Number in party
> > > OMSI = Number going to OMSI
> > > Sub = Number of subs bringing
> > > Mtg = Number coming to meeting
> > > Reg = Number coming to Regatta
> > >
> > > Crew
> > > ====
> > >
> > > Ray Keefer organizer/MC
> > > Greg Snyder Regatta Captain
> > > Alec Smyth Support Diver
> > >
> > > Photos
> > > ======
> > >
> > > None at this time.
> > >
> > > Locations
> > > =========
> > >
> > > Not select yet. Will have directions and maps.
> > >
> > > Motels
> > > ======
> > >
> > > Brief list of motels/hotels in Portland, Beaverton or Hillsboro.
> > >
> > > Sponsors
> > > ========
> > >
> > > None at this time.
> > >
> > > Costs
> > > =====
> > >
> > > None identified at this time.
> > >
> > > Regatta Rules and Procedures
> > > =====================
> > > Rules
> > > ----
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Where: where to meet, down to lake, beach, dock, parking lot
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This would be the how to keep the event sane. I like the idea
> > > of one sub at a time submerging for a fixed amount of time and
> > > area.
> > >
> > > Getting dive permission (Marshall boat and chase boat could
> > > be the same):
> > >
> > > 1. power over to Marshall boat to request permission to dive
> > > (all divers have to fillout some kind of form, name,
> > > date of birth, next of kin (sorry :) ) (minors will have
> > > to have the signature of a parent)
> > > 2. be put into diving queue
> > > 3. when it is your turn the marshall gives you permission
> > > to dive
> > > 4. You power to a chase boat/or it tows you clear of all
> > > the other subs
> > >
> > > Dive:
> > >
> > > 1. The chase boat hands you an underwater telephone.
> > > 2. The chase boat attaches a buoy with floating line
> > > 3. The chase boat hands you a kitchen timer locked in a
> > > box (so you can't be tempted to turn the dial and get
> > > more dive time :)
> > > 4. Chase boat sets another timer that it gets with time
> > > plus five minutes
> > > 5. Chase boat lifts dive flag
> > > 6. Sub is good to go
> > > 7. Underwater telephone contact is maintained.
> > >
> > > Surfacing:
> > >
> > > 1. When timer goes off in the sub, the sub surfaces
> > > 2. If the sub does not come up by the time the chase
> > > boat's timer goes off then the emergency procedures go
> > > into effect and that sub and operator will dive no more
> > > that day, i.e. no more permission from the marshall.
> > > 3. The chase boat lowers the dive flag.
> > > 4. The sub hands the timer and underwater telephone to the
> > > chases boat.
> > >
> > > Returning to fleet:
> > >
> > > 1. The sub powers/or is towed back to the fleet
> > >
> > >
> > > Emergency Procedures and Safety Precautions
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Safety Procedures:
> > >
> > > 1. buoy?
> > > 2. underwater telephone
> > > - one on chase boat
> > > - one that is passed to the sub with dive permission
> > > 3. CB's/cell phone/radios?
> > > 4. a pair of divers on hand
> > > 5. lift bags on hand
> > > 6. hoist/crane?
> > >
> > > Emergency Procedures:
> > >
> > > 1. try underwater telephone
> > > 2. put diver in water, follow buoy line down to sub
> > > 3. determine problem
> > > 4. use lift bags if necessary
> > > 5. chase boat to tow to shallow water
> > > 6. in mean time paramedics called if needed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tasks
> > > ====
> > >
> > > 1. Find conference facilities
> > > a. Identify possible sites
> > > - Check with Portland Chamber of Commerce 503-228-9411
> > > - Check with Beaverton Chamber of Commerce 503-644-0123
> > > - Check with Hillsboro Chamber of Commerce 503-648-1102
> > > - Check with Portland Oregon Visitors Association 503-275-9750
> > > Mostly deals with large convention centers www.pova.com
> > > - Convention and Visitor Bureau of Washington 503-644-5555
> > > County (cities of Beaverton and Hillsboro)
> > > - Check hotels/motels in area
> > > - Verify leads to
> > > - Solectron, Hillsboro, OR 503-648-5000
> > > Contact person Beverly 503-681-3111
> > > Holds 250 people, $250 for half day, $500 for full day
> > > - Residence Inn, Beaverton 503-268-4413
> > > holds 30 people
> > > Contact person Christina Luersen
> > > - Ray's barn
> > >
> > > b. Select site
> > > c. Put down deposit to reserve
> > > d. Final payment
> > > e. Publish costs
> > > f. Collect fees from participants
> > > e. Need volunteers to run program, one person will not be able
> > > to do it all.
> > > Need:
> > > MC
> > > 2 registrars
> > > 1 technical man/audio-visual/video camera
> > > cleanup crew
> > > g. Costs factors:
> > > Room rental
> > > Catered lunch
> > > Speaker fees or perks (free entrance? Or free OMSI entrance?
> > > Or free lunch?)
> > > h. Name tags
> > > i. Hand outs
> > > j. Parking lot for cars and trailers (with subs)
> > >
> > > 2. Find Motels
> > > a. Identify possible motels
> > > b. Individuals to book own accommodations
> > > c. Need volunteers to chase the information down and present to
> > group
> > >
> > > 3. Plan Tours
> > > a. Explore possibilities
> > > b. Collect information
> > > c. Publish costs
> > > d. Gather votes from PSUBS
> > > e. Gather fees
> > > f. Book tour/or make arrangements
> > > g. Need volunteers to chase the information down and present to group
> > >
> > > 4. Fill out Program
> > > a. Sponsor's?
> > > b. Topics?
> > > c. Video?
> > > d. Outside vendors
> > > e. Just us doing a bull session.
> > > f. Seeing Pat's video
> > > h. Have Dale walk us through his construction steps
> > > i. Design a sub
> > >
> > > 5. MC
> > > a. Volunteer for MC (Master of Ceremony)? Ray is default.
> > >
> > > 6. Conference center necessaries:
> > > 1. parking, cars and a few trailers with subs
> > > 2. VCR's & TV
> > > 3. white or black boards. A white board that makes hardcopies
> > > would be nice.
> > > 4. Digital camera (someone could bring their own)
> > > 5. Still cameras
> > > 6. Movie cameras
> > > 7. Lots of scratch paper
> > > 8. Calculators
> > > 9. Reference books
> > > 10. Podium with microphone
> > > 11. Overhead projector
> > > 12. Copier
> > >
> > > 7. Cameras and video
> > > 1. need photographer/cameraman
> > > 2. need camera still and video
> > > 3. need film and tape
> > >
> > > 8. Arrange OMSI/USS Blueback Techno Tour
> > > 1. Usually the Techno Tour is arranged every 1st Sunday of each
> > > month, eight people max, $15 each person
> > > 2. Convince OMSI to hold it when we want it. Can't be Saturday
> > > afternoon since that is their
> > > busiest time. Posibly early Saturday or Sunday. OMSI open
> > > Tuesday to Sunday.
> > > 3. Ary (sp?) Walker, Manager of Submarine 503-797-4624
> > > 4. Travel to/from OMSI. Car pool, bus, public transit, on your own?
> > >
> > > 9. Memorabilia
> > > 1. Table
> > > 2. License?
> > > 3. Merchandise: T-shirts, caps, plans....
> > > 4. Cash box
> > > 5. Two operators
> > > 6. Proceeds to help offset costs
> > >
> > > 10.PR
> > > 1. Contact local TV stations
> > > 2. Contact local newspaper
> > > 3. Contact local radio stations
> > > 4. Contact local dive shops.
> > > 5. PSUBS web page (www.psubs.org)
> > > 6. Newspaper ads
> > > 7. Local radio ads
> > > 8. Contact PSUBS related professionals
> > > 9. Contact past PSUBer who dropped off alias
> > > 10. Word of mouth, friends, family
> > >
> > > 11.Regatta
> > > 1. Create rules
> > > 2. Plan events/time trials
> > > 3. develop safety plan and emergency procedures
> > > 4. locate body of water
> > > - Hagg Lake
> > >
> > (http://www.co.washington.or.us/deptmts/sup_serv/fac_mgt/parks/hagglake.htm)
> > ?
> > > 5. water usage fees?
> > > 6. locate chase boats
> > > 7. underwater telephone - make or borrow
> > > 8. registration process
> > > 9. Can all subs dive at will?
> > > 10.Can only a fixed number dive at will?
> > > 11. Can only two, or one dive at a time? Dive
> > > in pairs. More fun then just my yourself and you are going
> > with a
> > > buddy.
> > > 12. Do we have to have buoys attached to each sub?
> > > 13. Does each sub have to have voice communications to the surface?
> > > 14. Do we have to have a chase boat? One per diving sub?
> > > 15. Do we have to have divers? Buddied up of course. One pair per diving
> > > sub?
> > > 16. How to organize the event? Whom says who can dive when? Need regatta
> > > captain.
> > > 17. Lunch?
> > >
> > > 12.Events/Speaking topics/session
> > > 1. movie: 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
> > > 2. go out to parking lot and ogle the subs. This is a crawl inside
> > > a real sub type of session.
> > > 3. Breakout into brain storm build it sessions
> > >
> > >
> >
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