Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oxygen generators

["John Pier" <caribsub@coqui.net>]

I agree Carsten, Nuclear private use will never be allowed anywhere in the
world weather it is for home a transportation.
Water electrolysis to produce O2 requires a LOT of energy, big subs with
their unlimited nuclear energy capacity can afford it.
Tests had been conducted to extract the O2 dissolved in the water, the one
used by fishes but it is levels produced are still too low,
Herve

----- Original Message -----
From: Carsten Standfuß <MerlinSub@t-online.de>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 5:52 AM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] oxygen generators


> Ask this boys : http://www.schmidlin-lab.ch/allinformations.htm
>
> or search the net for : +oxygen +generators
>
> and to breath a mixture of oxygen and hydrogen is possible - in a close
> diver rebreather - they did some test in the 60ies.
> Not very useful for "after diving" - smokers ..
>
> The last time here somebody use some gramm old waste radiation material
> (from russia) for unknown porpose - some thousand police men hunt him -
> they catch him - they put him in jail - the destroy the key to the
> prison-room he is still in.. - Privat nuke power ... not in europe
>
> The Magnetic-drive idear looks better..
>
> Carsten
>
> Richard Gordon schrieb:
> >
> > Has anyone got any info on using electrolysis to liberate oxygen atoms
from
> > water for use by your rebreather system? This would probably be a pretty
> > effective system as you would not have to store HP gas on board (aside
from
> > an emergency backup tank). The downside would be that you would only be
> > producing oxygen when you have elecricity. If you lost power for some
> > reason, you would lose oxygen too. Perhaps this could work in
conjunction
> > wih a standard O2 supply.
> >
> > I know that big subs have O2 generators of this type, but I do not know
how
> > readily the technology can be miniaturized. Again, opinions please.
> >
> > Rich
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael B. Holt <mholt@richmond.edu>
> > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 10:35 PM
> > Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Snow White navigation (was: Snow White virus)
> >
> > > "Sean T. Stevenson" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How much room do you have in your sub?  As far as DR is concerned,
> > > > I like to lay out a chart and use a pencil...
> > >
> > > Somehow, plotting a course with a chart and pencil always looks
> > > more accurate, doesn't it?
> > >
> > > > Assuming you have
> > > > an electronic solution in mind, are you talking about a GPS unit
> > > > or some sort of ECS?  Electronically I can see using a fluxgate
> > > > compass and external knotmeter to provide NMEA info on course and
> > > > speed, with the GPS overriding when the signal becomes
> > > > available (when you are surfaced).
> > >
> > > As I said, I supsect this sort of thing is available.  Probably
> > > in a high-end GPS unit, come to think of it.  This is just
> > > a thought-experiment.
> > >
> > > > Adjustment for current would need to be made according to a
> > > > tide/current atlas, but the information in these publications
> > > > is generally surface oriented.
> > >
> > > Come to think of it, is there any charting done with submarines
> > > in mind?
> > >
> > > > How much of a discrepancy will there be at depth?
> > >
> > > Good question.  Possibly none.
> > >
> > > > As for staying out of  the way of traffic - you're in a
> > > > submarine... just who are you expecting to run into?
> > >
> > > I'm more worried about fishing boats and the like on their way
> > > to wherever they are going.  They'll stay in certain lanes,
> > > if only out of habit.
> > >
> > > This does get back to the question of "What do you expect
> > > to do with your submarine?"  Submarine use can probably be
> > > divided into a very few specific categories, based mostly
> > > on the range and endurance of the boat.  How many of us
> > > expect to wander any distance?  Will there be a repeat of
> > > Simon Lake's 1898 trip that covered 1000 miles, part of it
> > > in the Atlantic Ocean?  I doubt it.  Most of these boats
> > > will drop to the bottom, cruise for a short distance and
> > > get back to the support site rather quickly.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
>
>