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Re: WHO CARES ABOUT GUNS was Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUB Fatalities...View Ports...Shatterproof



I HAVE JUST HAD TO DELETE UMPTEEN MESSAGES ABOUT GUNS, WHO CARES???
WELL IF YOU DO, GO TO A GUN SITE AND TELL THEM ABOUT IT, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO
BE ABOUT PSUBS NOT THIS OTHER @##@#$$$$%^#^ SHIT.
SO WHY DON'T THE GUN LOVING, MEET EATING, NIGGER HATING F... WITS GO AND
DISSCUSS THEIR GUNNS ELSE WHERE WITH THOSE WHO ARE INTRESTED.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Hylands <hylands@ibm.net>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Date: Wednesday, 15 March 2000 12:46
Subject: Re: GUNS was Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUB Fatalities...View
Ports...Shatterproof


>On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:47:15 +1300, "Karl  & Shirin Fuller"
><fullerk@voyager.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> Better hide in the bedroom then, you ain't going to identify much before
it
>> shoots you most times ?
>
>Of course you can, that's why you carry a flashlight. You carry the
>flashlight in your left hand, your handgun in your right, bracing your
>right wrist overtop of your left.
>
>You flash the light at the noise or shadow or whatever, and using your
>"command" voice, you yell (very loudly) "STOP -- DROP YOUR ---" whatever
>they're carrying, gun or knife or whatever. If you haven't identified what
>they're carrying, you don't shoot them. Simple. If they don't drop their
>weapon, you shoot them. Also simple.
>
>Most people who are doing a home invasion are going to be very surprised at
>this point. Their eyes have adjusted to darkness, and you just shone a very
>bright light at them, so they're not seeing much. Even if they have a gun
>and they shoot in your direction, they'll probably miss.
>
>The point is, having a gun puts you in control, not the other person. You
>say in NZ that criminals don't use guns. That's nice, but they may use
>knives, or baseball bats. Getting your skull bashed in from a baseball bat
>makes you just as dead as getting shot.
>
>If I have a gun (and of course I have the training to use it defensively),
>I can (to a certain extent) control any situation that comes up. I may lose
>control of the situation, I may even die, but at least I've got a chance, a
>much better chance, of coming out alive and keeping my family safe and
>unharmed.
>
>And in the bottom line, that is what counts. Protecting your life and the
>life of your family. I may not need my gun, and I don't have to use it, but
>at least I have the option if the bad guy is armed with a weapon and won't
>put it down when I ask.
>
>Later,
>Jon
>
>
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>
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