Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUB Fatalities...View Ports...Shatterproof

[Ray Keefer <Ray.Keefer@ebay.sun.com>]

Hi Pat,

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> From: "Paul Suds" <paul_suds@hotmail.com>
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> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 4:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUB Fatalities...View Ports...Shatterproof
> . Again, unfortunately, this will
> > never happen, and it is a problem our sociatey is stuck with. i know this
> is
> > controversial subject and not appropraiate for this web site, but the
> issue
> > has already been broached, so jump in..Suds
> 
> 
> I was going to stay out of this; and I'll probably wish I had.
> 
> I never see any statistics about how many good people save their lives,
> loved ones, or property with guns every day.

You won't ever see real statistics. Only estimates. Problem is that in most
jurisdictions you will get arrested and charged if you report that you 
had to use a gun to protect or scare off a criminal. Many of the incidents
do not get reported. 

Unless of course you shoot someone. The you will be arrested and even if it
was later ruled justified you may never get your gun back and will probably
be sued for millions of dollars.

> 
> And many people focus on the comparatively few mistakes law enforcement
> officers make, instead of the countless times every day they risk their own
> lives so others can be safe.

Agreed.

> 
> Carsten, I respect your right to your own opinion, and it is a beautifully
> humanitarian one.  But there are sociopaths and societal deviants out there
> who are not as humane as you are; and if one of them breaks into your home
> at night, I strongly urge you to not assume he's only a harmless thief,
> because he might be Charles Mansons meaner twin brother.
> 
> Very best regards,
> 
> Pat
> 
> 
> 
> 

Calling 911 is not a solution either. It can take 5 to 60+ minutes for a
unit to respond. Even then our Supreme Court has ruled in two seperate court
cases that the police are not resposible for protecting individuals. Only the
public at large. Kind of makes you warm and cozy when things go bump in
the night.

Regards,
Ray