Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] psubs club sub

[Kenneth Schulze <aquamari@cruzers.com>]

I'd like to suggest another approach to creating a psub design, and that
is to
have a design contest.

Phase I, would be the paper designs
Phase II, working demonstration model
Phase III, full-scale prototype

Each phase would have to offer a greater prize award to ensure enough
interest
to carry two or three winners to the full-scale prototype.
In the end, the winning design would be the property of the Psub
membership,
from which all could have access to the detail designs and possible kit
parts.

This approach has been used to design several small aircraft.

Best Regards,
Ken Schulze


Phil Nuytten wrote:

>         You wrote > do each of us have to pay $150 for the same
> information?<  Yup, you do . . . any other course is theft. Think of it as
> software . . . each user agrees to pay for the use and not to resell or to
> transfer to a third party by any means for for any purpose, without the
> express permission of the owner. That's why we have copyrights and patents
> in this country. This specific subject has been thoroughly explored  in a
> previous thread - when some-one decided it was cool to stiff Captain
> Kitteridge by simply copying his plans and passing them around.
>          If you are really into freeware, why don't you pay some-one to do
> the engineering of a  design based on your experience,( or do the
> engineering yourself) - then pay an A-cad technician to draft up a set of
> fabrication drawings,( or draw them yourself) - pay a technical writer to
> draft the fabrication instructions, ( or write it  yourself,) ditto for
> testing procedures, ops manual, maintenance manual. emergency procedures,
> etc., etc.,  You could probably bring this whole package in for  as little
> as fifty grand if you did a lot of the work yourself. Then give it away to
> who-ever wants it.          No??       well then, sell the damn info: if
> there are a hundred P-subbers, that's only $500 each!! ( with no profit to
> you, but, what the hell!! ) Wait a minute . . .what's to stop the first guy
> from making copies of the stuff and giving them away to his friends . .so
> you get back $500 for a fifty grand investment. Naw, they wouldn't do that
> 'cause it wouldn't be right, and it wouldn't be fair, it wouldn't be legal,
> (since you would have copyrighted the info) it wouldn't be Christian, and
> it  would be damn-well un-American!!
>         A bit over the top, but you get the point . There are some capable
> people on this forum . .sure, get several of them to write on their
> specialties and share it with the others. That's the reason that many
> joined this group, I presume. But don't  rip off some poor twit who is just
> trying to make a living in his chosen field. . .
> Phil Nuytten
> ( a poor twit trying to make a living in his chosen field)