Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] psubs club sub

["D. Blake" <dblake@bright.net>]

Hello Phil:
You and I reside in totally different worlds on all kinds of levels.  I
understand your point though, but I'am not General Dynamics or some other
corporate entity.  I do not have 50k to invest in something I have no desire
to profit from.  Does everything have to come down to making a buck?  What
happened to just having fun?
You can only have fun if you have the money or permission to do so?  Oh
well, I'm sorry I brought the whole matter up in the first place.
TTYL,
Big D

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Nuytten <72020.572@compuserve.com>
To: INTERNET:personal_submersibles@psubs.org
<personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] psubs club sub


>        You wrote > do each of us have to pay $150 for the same
>information?<  Yup, you do . . . any other course is theft. Think of it as
>software . . . each user agrees to pay for the use and not to resell or to
>transfer to a third party by any means for for any purpose, without the
>express permission of the owner. That's why we have copyrights and patents
>in this country. This specific subject has been thoroughly explored  in a
>previous thread - when some-one decided it was cool to stiff Captain
>Kitteridge by simply copying his plans and passing them around.
>         If you are really into freeware, why don't you pay some-one to do
>the engineering of a  design based on your experience,( or do the
>engineering yourself) - then pay an A-cad technician to draft up a set of
>fabrication drawings,( or draw them yourself) - pay a technical writer to
>draft the fabrication instructions, ( or write it  yourself,) ditto for
>testing procedures, ops manual, maintenance manual. emergency procedures,
>etc., etc.,  You could probably bring this whole package in for  as little
>as fifty grand if you did a lot of the work yourself. Then give it away to
>who-ever wants it.          No??       well then, sell the damn info: if
>there are a hundred P-subbers, that's only $500 each!! ( with no profit to
>you, but, what the hell!! ) Wait a minute . . .what's to stop the first guy
>from making copies of the stuff and giving them away to his friends . .so
>you get back $500 for a fifty grand investment. Naw, they wouldn't do that
>'cause it wouldn't be right, and it wouldn't be fair, it wouldn't be legal,
>(since you would have copyrighted the info) it wouldn't be Christian, and
>it  would be damn-well un-American!!
>        A bit over the top, but you get the point . There are some capable
>people on this forum . .sure, get several of them to write on their
>specialties and share it with the others. That's the reason that many
>joined this group, I presume. But don't  rip off some poor twit who is just
>trying to make a living in his chosen field. . .
>Phil Nuytten
>( a poor twit trying to make a living in his chosen field)
>