Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] psubs club sub

["D. Blake" <dblake@bright.net>]

Believe me, I had only the best of intentions.  I have neither the resources
to invest in a time-share psub, or the desire to design and build psubs to
compete on the open market which seems to me the only reason why anyone
would have your concerns about "cheating" or "stealing".
I'am interested in designing and building my own personal submersible with
whatever help and expertise is available with the highest degree of economy
and safety.  Here is an example to illustrate my point :
I buy a set of plans to build an environmental friendly cottage on the side
of a hill.  Soon enough, I have a new neighbor that buys a parcel of land
ajoining mine.  He and his wife drop in to get a closer look at my cottage.
They are very impressed.  By and by they express the desire to build a
structure exactly like mine on their own property.  Because I'am an
altruistic individual with the desire to help others, I dig out the plans
and tell them,
"Here are the plans to help you get started.  Go build your home and enjoy
life my friends."
Is that "cheating" or "stealing"?
Now; if their true desire was to build a whole development of like
structures for profit, that would be an entirely different matter.  But
then; if they could afford such an endeavor, they could surely afford to buy
their own set of plans, right?
Could be you and I have different agendas.  Regardless, "cheating" and
"stealing" are harsh stinging words.  In fact they are hyperbole.  Take
care, and enjoy life.
Big D.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kanarr Family <dkanarr@bellatlantic.net>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] psubs club sub


>D. Blake wrote:
>>
>> Oh yeah.  If you think about it; in addition to custom stuff, there are a
>> number of components that all psubs have in common.  A few that spring to
>> mind are viewport lenses and rings, hatch covers and associated hardware,
>> pressure compensated motor housings.
>> Once a superior design is created or procured, all that is left is
finding
>> the least expensive avenue of fabrication which may be one of the members
>> who has access to the necessary equipment, or a friend who has a shop.
It
>> just takes coordination.
>> I saw a website the other day that offered plans for pressure compensated
>> motor housings for $150.  The same basic design is used, only the
dimensions
>> are adjusted for motor size.  The same company builds psubs.  So
obviously
>> it is going to be a proven design.  Do each of us have to pay $150 for
the
>> same information?  Why not a few people kick in for the plans, and
someone
>> do a white paper on motor housings.
>> The same could be said for hatches, latches, and so forth.  I have a
catalog
>> from the same company that supplies hatches, manholes, and ballistic
doors
>> for the U.S. Navy.  The catalog has detailed drawings of all their
products
>> along with description of materials.  Why try to reinvent the wheel?  I
hate
>> paperwork, but I think I'll try my hand at a white paper on hatches.
>> The same could be said for viewports.  I know their are publications out
>> there on the subject, but why do each of us have to pay $100 here, and
$100
>> there for the same information?  Money could be better spent on
fabrication.
>> Think of it as a research paper.  I suggest using APA format for the
white
>> papers.  Use quotations and document sources.  Add a disclaimer if you
feel
>> discomfort, although the psub website already has one.
>>
>> TTYL,
>> Big Dave
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Young <tvcmikey@yahoo.com>
>> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>> Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 4:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] psubs club sub
>>
>> >Mike here in Malaysia,
>> >D has a good idea. How about people who need custom
>> >built stuff but don't have the expertise to do
>> >welding, but can do something else for the person who
>> >does the welding or molding or casting or whatever,
>> >using a barter system. I need a frammitz, and Carsten
>> >needs a grommet. I do the grommet for Carsten, and
>> >since he does frammitzes we barter for equipment
>> >needed. There's also the fact I might be able to find
>> >someone here in Malaysia thyat can do something
>> >cheaper than in the US or Germany, or wherever. It's
>> >an idea.
>> >
>> >FWAFS
>> >Mike
>
>
>(Dead Horse-Fork in Eye) Not fair, stealing, cheating, No, No!!
>