[PSUBS-MAILIST] Alec's new sub
James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles
personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Wed Jan 7 10:15:16 EST 2015
Ive just had a look and managed to find the old pics lurking on wayback
machine.
http://web.archive.org/web/20050307112458/http://www.psubs.org/psub_pic/alec_smyth3.html
On 7 January 2015 at 13:32, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> Alec,
> Hmmm, we are left be being detectives are we.:-) The sub must be quite
> long with a snuggly 31 in dia,and a weight of 4500 lbs. I sure like the
> all SS or plastic.
> Hank
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 1/6/15, Private via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Alec's new sub
> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 10:34 PM
>
> At the convention if it happens here!
> I'm thinking of a social event. I'll give you a few random
> high level attributes...
>
> The main cylinder came from my old project sub "Solo",
> shortened a little. It's good for 1000 feet but only for
> skinny people at 31" OD.
>
> The CT is from PC-1402.
>
> The hatch is PC1402 design, but newly made by Emile.
>
> Four fixed MK-101s, jettisonable and oil compensated by a
> new method, not the little wound-around hoses like Snoopy.
>
> Bow dome.
>
> Snoopy method of VBT floats but with way more of them.
>
> Every part other than the pressure hull proper is either 316
> SS or plastic. Every last little bracket, including inside.
> I hate rust.
>
> The stern... The stern... You will just have to wait for
> that one. I suspect one and only one person will love
> it. It's guaranteed to be different, I'll just say
> that.
>
> The objective is for a 2 person boat that weighs less than
> 4500 lbs and launches at very shallow boat ramps, but which
> is practical in open water with 30" freeboard and an actual
> deck. Air tanks and VBT floats are replaceable without
> putting a diver in the water.
>
> The design philosophy is a search for radical simplicity. I
> want to ship this one around the world to interesting
> places, and cannot in those situations find myself lacking a
> spare part or the sub would become a giant paperweight. Thus
> the whole thing has very, very few parts, minimal
> electronics, components as accessible as possible, etc.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alec
>
>
>
> > On Jan 6, 2015, at 6:20 PM, hank pronk via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Alec,
> > When are you going to show us some pictures of your new
> build. Perhaps even a teaser.
> > Hank
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Tue, 1/6/15, Private via Personal_Submersibles
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
> > To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 6:13 PM
> >
> > Hank,
> >
> > Ha, I think I know that GPR is actually "GRP". But
> that's
> > about the extent of it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Alec
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 6, 2015, at 4:45 PM, hank pronk via
> > Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Alec,
> >> I had concerns about the GPR hull, only because I
> have
> > no clue about GPR hulls. I though a new hull with
> CT
> > would be the ticket. The domes rest right on the
> hull(
> > over 2in thick GPR) It would be a
> pretty
> > simple hull to build. A 32in dia tube with some
> > external rings and your away. I actually saw this
> sub
> > in Nelson BC Canada about 20 years ago. I drove 5 hr
> one way
> > to see it, they bought it to do log salvage. My
> > brother and I were already salvaging the logs they
> were
> > after :-)
> >> Hank-------------------------------------------
> >> On Tue, 1/6/15, Alec Smyth via
> Personal_Submersibles
> > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
> >> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion"
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >> Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 3:16 PM
> >>
> >> Scott,
> >> this does not look like it could do any surface run
> to
> > speak
> >> of. Methinks you'd need a real surface ship. When
> you
> >> and Hank come BACK from Tenerife I'll tag along!
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Alec
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:04
> >> PM, swaters at waters-ks.com
> >> via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> Ok. Thanks
> >> Hank.Scott
> >> Waters
> >>
> >> Sent from my U.S.
> >> Cellular® Smartphone
> >>
> >> -------- Original message
> >> --------
> >> From:
> >> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
> >> Date:01/06/2015 12:46 PM
> >> (GMT-06:00)
> >> To: Personal Submersibles
> >> General Discussion
> >> Subject: Re:
> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott,
> >> I lost the pics in a pc
> >> problem You can contact Alan at
> > Silvercrest, he was the
> >> agent. If you want to go to Tenerife to see
> it I
> > will tag
> >> along.
> >> Hank--------------------------------------------
> >> On Tue, 1/6/15, swaters at waters-ks.com
> >> via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Subject: Re:
> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
> >> To: "Personal
> >> Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >> Received: Tuesday, January 6,
> 2015, 1:36 PM
> >>
> >> That
> >> might
> >> be a possability! Do you have any pics of her? My
> goal
> >> is 1000 meters or deeper, but
> depends on what
> >> options come
> >> up.Thanks,Scott Waters
> >>
> >> Sent
> >> from
> >> my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
> >>
> >> -------- Original message
> --------
> >> From: hank pronk via
> Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >> Date:01/06/2015 12:25
> PM (GMT-06:00)
> >>
> >> To: Personal Submersibles General
> >> Discussion
> >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
> >> Leo
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott,
> >> I don't know how deep you want
> >> to go and how much effort
> >> you want to put
> >> in,,,,,but there is the Wrangler sub in
> >>
> >> Tenerife Spain. The Wrangler is GPR with two
> > 34in
> >> domes, one at each end. One
> end opens as
> >> the
> >> hatch. My idea was to
> replace the
> >> hull with 516-70
> >> steel with a CT. It had
> >> a deal worked out at 50K
> >> landed in
> >> Vancouver. I think she can do 2,000 feet.
> >>
> >> Hank
> > --------------------------------------------
> >> On Tue, 1/6/15, hank pronk via
> >> Personal_Submersibles
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Subject: Re:
> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
> >> To: "Personal
> >> Submersibles General Discussion"
> >>
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >> Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2015,
> > 1:12
> >> PM
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott,
> >> Did he say where
> >> and how deep?
> >>
> >> Hank--------------------------------------------
> >> On Tue, 1/6/15, swaters at waters-ks.com
> >> via Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
> >> To:
> >> "Personal Submersibles General
> >>
> >> Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >> Received: Tuesday, January
> 6, 2015, 10:57
> >> AM
> >>
> >> An
> >> update on Leo. Silvercrest
> claims she was
> >> sunk in
> >> deep
> >> water
> >> after a insurance claim
> some time
> >> ago. Thanks,Scott
> >>
> >> Waters
> >> Sent
> >> from my
> >> U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
> >>
> >> -------- Original message
> --------
> >> From: via
> Personal_Submersibles
> >> Date:01/06/2015 8:02
> AM
> > (GMT-06:00)
> >> To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> >>
> >> Subject: Re:
> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >> It would surely be nice to
> find
> >> Leo. I'd go into hock again
> for that
> >> one, just
> >> for old
> >>
> >> time's sake. That notwithstanding, I'm
> >> virtually
> >> certain that
> >> those particular hull(s) were built of
> >>
> >> A516Gr70, like most of the boats of the day (and
> most
> >> of
> >> the
> >>
> >> boats out of Nuytco currently, or at least the
> ones
> >> without
> >> cyrillic
> >> operating manuals).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't remember how thick the steel
> >>
> >> was, but it was definitely made from
> > standard stuff.
> >> Plus,
> >> the main viewport
> >> was 4 FEET in diameter!!! Diving
> >> that
> >> thing was seriously
> awesome. She had
> > plenty
> >> of room
> >> for
> >> two
> >> (or enough for three good
> friends) and
> > that
> >> huge
> >> picture
> >> window in
> >> the front.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If Hyco had survived (Leo
> was their
> >> last
> >> P-style boat) I'm betting
> there
> >> would be more of
> >> them
> >>
> >> out there. It was a serious attempt at Perry's
> >> stranglehold on the shallow
> water market
> >> (shallow by
> >> comparison) and I think it
> >> was a really good try.
> >> Sadly,
> >> it
> >> all fell apart before
> >> we could really show her
> >> off.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We did all the deepwater pilot
> > training
> >>
> >> in her down on the Flower Gardens,
> and
> > had a ball.
> >> These
> >> days, she'd be
> >> even better, because the
> >> subsystems and
> >> propulsion gear is so much
> better. That
> > sub
> >> was rated
> >> for
> >> 2000
> >> feet, which ain't bad. How about that
> >>
> >> for an option,
> >> Scott?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No fancy steel. Huge
> >> viewport. 600
> >> meters. What could be better? A 6 1/2
> >>
> >> foot
> >> sphere displaces less than
> 6-tons.
> >> Add a pair of
> >> uncle
> >>
> >> Phil's aluminum pods in back with a block of foam
> >> to
> >> support them. Fair the
> >> thing like a fat tadpole. You
> >> could
> >> probably hold it down to 7,
> maybe 7 1/2
> >> tons.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Leo weighs 10. Most of the
> P-boats
> >> weigh
> >> that, and a good bit more.
> Yours
> >> would be a
> >> lightweight
> >>
> >> compared to them, a whole lot cheaper to build,
> more
> >> agile,
> >> easier to
> >> maintain..... The list goes on. What could
> >>
> >> be
> >> better? Damn, I want one!!!
> It would
> >> be perfect for
> >> my
> >>
> >> neck
> >> of the woods.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Vance
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >> From: swaters at waters-ks.com
> >> via Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >> To: Personal
> >> Submersibles General Discussion
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >> Sent: Tue, Jan 6, 2015
> >> 7:49 am
> >>
> >> Subject:
> >> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for the info
> >> Phil. I keep running into the
> >> same
> >> problems of the material
> and building of
> >> the
> >> personel
> >> sphere.
> >>
> >> Scott Waters
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my U.S.
> >> Cellular®
> >> Smartphone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original message --------
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Phil Nuytten via
> >> Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >> Date:01/05/2015 8:44
> PM
> > (GMT-06:00)
> >>
> >> To: Personal
> >> Submersibles General Discussion
> >>
> >> Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi, Guys, and Happy
> >> New Year to all loyal
> >> subbers!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Glad to shed some little
> light on the
> >> Pisces
> >> subs
> >> . .We
> >> (Nuytco) have
> >> four Hyco boats –
> >> 2/8/10 and Aquarius, P-4 and P-5
> >> are
> >> in
> >> Hawaii at HURL
> >> (Hawaii
> >> Underwater Research Lab)
> –
> >> they are out of
> >> service,
> >>
> >> currently and may be sold
> >> off if no
> >> funding is forthcoming. I hope not,
> >>
> >> because
> >> Terry
> >> Kerby
> >> and his crew
> >> rebuilt them into the
> >> cream of the Pisces crop! There
> >> are
> >> two Pisces boats in
> >>
> >> Russia, one operational and one in a museum (or,
> >> actually
> >> ,
> >>
> >> outside a museum).
> >> Pisces –1, is
> >> in the UK, last seen, it was in
> >> parts.
> >> Likewise, P-6
> >> is in
> >> parts (the stern sphere was lost in the sinking
> >> of
> >> IUC’s vessel
> >> ‘Aloha’)
> >> and what’s left is in
> >> New York as Vance mentions. I
> >> cut
> >> a
> >> deal with my old
> >> friend Andre Galerne
> (before his
> >> untimely
> >> death) to
> >> have
> >> first dibs on
> >> buying P-6 to go into the
> >> ‘working sub’
> >> Hyco/Pisces
> >> display section at our
> >>
> >> long-awaited ‘Deep Discovery Centre’ diving
> >> technology
> >> museum. His
> >> sons, Lionel
> >> and Eric were kind enough
> >> to honour Andre’s
> >> wishes
> >> and we will arrange
> >>
> >> shipment to the west coast when the weather gets
> >> better.
> >> Would appreciate
> >> it if
> >> you would steer clear of
> this one
> >> – we do plan to
> >> rebuild
> >> to the same condition
> >>
> >> as P-4 and P-5. That leaves one unaccounted for .
> .
> >> ‘Leo’ – I heard some
> years
> >> ago that it was for sale
> (cheap) but have
> >> no idea
> >> what
> >> ultimately
> >> happened to
> >> it. Maybe ask at
> >> Silvercrest? About all you will be
> >> able
> >> to
> >> use from the P-boats
> >>
> >> now is the personnel sphere
> – you’d
> >> probably be
> >> better
> >> off
> >> building one from
> >> scratch if you want a
> >> thousand feet or less – after
> >> the
> >> first thou, the spheres
> >>
> >> get much more expensive.
> >>
> >>
> >> Reagards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Phil
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent: Monday,
> >> January 05, 2015 4:43 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> To: Personal
> >> Submersibles General
> >>
> >> Discussion
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ok. Thanks Vance. I will see what
> > turns up.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott Waters
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my
> >> U.S.
> >> Cellular®
> >>
> >> Smartphone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original message
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> >>
> >> From: via
> >>
> >> Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >>
> >> Date:01/05/2015 6:34
> >> PM (GMT-06:00)
> >>
> >> To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re:
> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> International Underwater
> >> Contractors. When Andre
> Galern was alive,
> >> it was one
> >> of
> >> THE
> >> deep diving
> >>
> >> construction companies in the world. No idea
> >> what's
> >> happened up
> >> there in the
> >> last few years. Best to
> >> ask Dr. Phil that one, too.
> >> He
> >> knew/knows all those
> >>
> >> guys.
> >>
> >> Vance
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original
> >>
> >> Message-----
> >>
> >> From: swaters at waters-ks.com
> >> via Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >> To: Personal
> >> Submersibles General
> >> Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >> Sent: Mon, Jan 5, 2015
> >>
> >> 6:37 pm
> >>
> >> Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Vance,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Forgive me, but what is IUC in New York? I should
> >> probably know this. Haha.
> >>
> >> I figure it's worth at least trying.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott Waters
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my U.S.
> >>
> >> Cellular®
> >> Smartphone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original message --------
> >>
> >>
> >> From: via
> >>
> >> Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >>
> >> Date:01/05/2015 3:35 PM (GMT-06:00)
> >>
> >>
> >> To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anything is possible,
> Scott.
> >> SIlvercrest will skin you
> alive, given
> > half
> >> an
> >> opportunity.
> >> Or at
> >> least they'll
> >> try. You have to be
> >> willing to wrangle with them. I
> >>
> >> don't think they'll respect
> >>
> >> anyone who doesn't. Maybe Phil has an extra one
> >> laying
> >> around. I've
> >> never asked.
> >> You could do a lot worse,
> >> if the hulls are
> >> salvageable.
> >> There are four pressure
> >>
> >> vessels (except on Leo). The
> personnel
> > sphere, an
> >> aft
> >> floatation sphere, and
> >> the
> >> two 32" forward VBTs
> >> (that's what is under
> >> the
> >> fiberglas brow that makes
> the P
> >> boats so distinctive. And
> the boats weigh
> >> from ten
> >> to
> >> twelve
> >> tons, depending.
> >> Just
> >> in case you want to check your air-ride flatbeds
> >> for
> >> load capability. The
> >>
> >> P-VI was the most perfect
> hull Hyco
> >> ever did--it was
> >> fabricated in Jacques
> >>
> >> Piccard's shop in
> Switzerland under
> >> contract, and
> >> was
> >> lap
> >> finished, as I
> >> understand it--both
> >> inside and out. Lovely thing,
> >> P-VI. I
> >> remember her well.
> >>
> >> Maybe it could be had, if IUC hasn't rolled it
> >> out into
> >> a dumpster. That
> >> might
> >> be another question for our
> Dr.
> >> Phil, as I have zero
> >> contacts up that
> >> way
> >> anymore. Keep me in mind.
> I'll
> >> happily spin a
> >> wrench for
> >>
> >> you anytime on one of
> >> those.
> >>
> >> Vance
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original
> >> Message-----
> >>
> >> From: swaters at waters-ks.com
> >> via
> >>
> >> Personal_Submersibles
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >> To:
> >>
> >> Personal Submersibles General
> > Discussion
> >>
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >> Sent:
> >> Mon, Jan 5, 2015 4:25 pm
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST]
> >> Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Excellent info
> >> Vance! Thank you so much. I was
> >> hopeing
> >> to locate one and
> >>
> >> maybe do a major overhaul / restoration on one
> rather
> >> than
> >> try to build a 1000m
> >>
> >> boat from scratch. Any more
> pointers
> >> would be
> >> awesome.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott Waters
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my
> >> U.S.
> >> Cellular®
> >>
> >> Smartphone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> Date:01/05/2015 3:02 PM
> (GMT-06:00)
> >>
> >>
> >> To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> P-I Scrapped out by
> >>
> >> Vickers
> >>
> >> P-II
> >> Rumored
> >> to be in a Miami storage
> unit
> >> (unconfirmed)
> >>
> >>
> >> P-III ?
> >>
> >>
> >> P-IV In Hawaii and
> >> in service (but stony
> broke, I hear)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> P-V
> >> Ditto
> >>
> >> P-VI
> >> IUC warehouse in
> >> New York, maybe parted
> >> out
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> P-VII In a Russian
> >> museum (Sevastopol, I
> >> think)
> >>
> >>
> >> P-VIII
> >> Nuytco
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> P-IX
> >> Design
> >> study
> >> for Intersub (4K
> >> meters, never
> >> built)
> >>
> >> P-X
> >> Nuytco
> >>
> >>
> >> P-X11 Same as VII (flanking
> the front
> >> doors, last I
> >> saw)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Plus Leo, which
> >> was a big-window Pisces
> >> style rated to
> >> 2000'
> >> which, along with P-VI and
> >> Aquarius, are the only
> >> Hyco
> >> boats
> >> that I qualified
> >> on
> >> and operated (although the
> P-VI
> >> experience was not a
> >> good
> >>
> >> one for me or the
> >> owners, either
> >> one). I did participate in a Pisces V
> >>
> >> overhaul in Houston, but
> >> I'm not
> >> sure that counts except for the busted
> >>
> >> knuckles.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I think the boys at Silvercrest might
> >>
> >> have one of the question
> >> marks, but
> >> I'm not sure. Assuming they do, that
> >>
> >> leaves
> >> one unaccounted for. I'm
> >> betting Mr. Dr. Prof.
> Nuytten would know.
> >> As a side
> >> note,
> >> if
> >> you look at the
> >> Mirs,
> >> you will see where they sprang from. They are
> >> Pisces
> >> boats on steroids.
> >>
> >> Those people worked at IUC
> for a couple
> >> of years and
> >> operated P-VII and P-XII
> >>
> >> for years after that, then
> took all
> >> those dandy
> >> ideas,
> >>
> >> added
> >> a pile of rubles,
> >> and built a couple of big
> brawny kissing
> >> cousins. Mir
> >> 1
> >> &
> >> Mir 2, by name.
> >> The Pisces subs were
> >> pretty good for the day, but
> >> maintenance
> >> heavy. And rest
> >> assured, you
> >> haven't really lived until you have
> >>
> >> pulled
> >> a Pisces battery box at
> >> sea to change one cell.
> What a job!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Vance
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original
> >>
> >> Message-----
> >>
> >> From:
> >> Alan James via Personal_Submersibles
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >> To:
> >>
> >> Personal Submersibles General
> > Discussion
> >>
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >> Sent:
> >> Mon, Jan 5, 2015 3:02 pm
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST]
> >> Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hawaii
> >> undersea research lab on
> Oahu has
> >> two
> >> subs.
> >>
> >>
> >> One I know
> >> is a Pisces & I believe
> the
> >> other is also.
> >>
> >>
> >> I think
> >> David Columbo has seen them
> in the
> >> last year,
> >>
> >>
> >> he might
> >> confirm.
> >>
> >>
> >> They told me they were
> >> losing
> >> funding for operating them
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> as Govt considered rovs were
> >> better
> >> value for money.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "swaters at waters-ks.com
> >> via
> >>
> >> Personal_Submersibles"
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >> To: psubs
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent: Tuesday,
> >>
> >> January 6, 2015
> >> 7:27 AM
> >>
> >> Subject:
> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Does
> >> anyone know what happened
> to all
> >> the Pisces submarines? I
> believe there
> > was
> >> 10 built,
> >> but
> >> only one
> >> or two that
> >> are still in operation. I
> >> think NOAA has one.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott
> >> Waters
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my
> >> U.S.
> >> Cellular®
> >>
> >> Smartphone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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