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Re: "Bootlegging Real Psubs"
Alan,
Are you in the St. Lawrence river area? I have done some diving up there when I
lived in NY state. I knew a professional diver by the name of Moe Hunt who had
dive shops in Watertown and Clayton. He used an old navy Lark (long version of
the duck) for dive trips. When coming back to shore he could drive right up on
the beach and head into town! Tons of fun and quite a spectacle. He also had a
small sub which I worked on for a short time (construction/repair of the sub, not
underwater stuff). I have also been diving with him on a few occasions.
Although the viz was often poor I do remember some days when we had nearly 30 ft
or so. Great place for wreck dives and bottle hunting. Let me know if you have
run across him up there, I haven't seen him in many years.
Thanks,
Dick Morrisson
"Alan D. Secor" wrote:
> Would 900 ft down in a Perry class 3 man sub qualify? Oh, maybe not...
> I wasn't the pilot.
>
> Regarding your question on wet subs and wet suit diving in northern lakes,
> most northern lakes I have been in have very limited visibility. Not sure
> you could cover any more ground in a wet sub than with a DPV and a DPV
> would be a whole lot cheaper. For search purposes, neither is an
> efficient way to go. You'd be better off investing in a side scan sonar
> and magnetometer. The Marine Sonic side scan runs about $20K and produces
> quite high resolution picures. You could cover a lot of ground with a
> surface ship and then just get wet when you get an interesting target.
> I know people currently doing this in the St. Lawrence River.
>
> Al Secor
>
> >
> >
> >Hello psub owners, (pilots),
> >I would be interested to know how many of this club's members have ever
> >"actually" gone down (under water) in a personal submarine let alone in one
> >that you designed, built and piloted yourself and not some half built ugly
> >monstrosity you inherited or received from someone else's failed project?
> >
> >There seems to be quite a bit of professional "sounding" ethics advice being
> >given to Charles from the club's critics and nothing of a positive psub
> >design nature except for a couple club members. Now be very honest, how
> >many in this psubs club actually own and pilot their own subs? I'm sure the
> >listmaster/war museum photographer, Mr. Ray Keefer, owns and pilots his own
> >personal sub and I'm sure the psubs list owner, Mr. Jon Wallace, owns and
> >pilots his own sub, but, we scuba people were curious just how many of the
> >other "regular" club members do real hands on psubs diving. My guess from
> >the postings is not many at all. Is there a list of members with working
> >psubs in this club?
> >
> >Maybe Charles knows more about psub design and building than we give him
> >credit for and some members pick on and criticize Charles because he'll show
> >up many members by actually building and piloting his own psub while others
> >just talk about building one for years and years and really do nothing. Mr.
> >Phil Nuytten, speaking of bootlegging, being in the music business, how
> >could the lady "look up Elvis" for bootlegging Hound Dog and many many
> >other's music that he stole?
> >
> >Just one person's opinion.
> >Good luck Charles, Ginger
> >
> >
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> Alan D. Secor
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