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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] aluminum to steel



Alec,
I have done some anodizing with good results. A reference that I found reliable and very useful was "Artists Anodizing Aluminum " by David Laplanz . Like most topics there is a lot of advice available on the internet some good and most not too good . If you can find a copy of David's book it is probably the best available for DIY . Three things I found important , 1. use a good grade sulfuric acid 15-18 % , ( not battery acid ). 2. A dedicated power source that supplies 12-20 volts dc with a current density of 10-15 amps / square foot, rated for continuous duty .the newer inverter types will give the best service. Ordinary battery chargers burn out rather quickly if used in this application.  DIY is ok for small stuff but It will take a fairly large ( expensive) power source to do a proper job on your dome ring .  3. There is a witches brew of other chemicals involved for the different baths and rinses that has to be scaled up depending on the size of the object that is being processed. Also the optimum anodizing bath temperature is 70degrees F so the more dense the object the longer it has to soak and the more heat is generated . A chiller is usually required for larger objects.
Dan Lance

On 5/25/2012 3:58 PM, Smyth, Alec wrote:

Has anyone here done their own anodizing? I have a big dome seat that I will one day have to anodize, and when I inquired about it (years ago) the price I was quoted was in the thousands of dollars. As far as I know, this only takes a tub and some chemicals, not complex machinery, so it sounds like a candidate for a DIY attempt.

 

From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of vbra676539@aol.com
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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] aluminum to steel

 



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From: Emile van Essen <emile@airesearch.nl>
To: personal_submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 1:11 pm
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] aluminum to steel

Vance, (or other specialists)

 

 

Anodized aluminum works nicely if well done. There are pinhole issues with it that cause some problems, and threading is always an issue. Any thread in aluminum must be carefully cleaned and filled so that salt water is excluded, as the salts will cause a buildup and jam SS bolts tight.

 

>> Yep I know the problem with jammed bolts. Today I assembled some pieces with anti seize paste. But it looks like it contains copper particles.; wrong??

 Definitely wrong. Add seawater and you have made a battery. Never-seize variants are available without the copper and would definitely be worth locating.

Emile.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Emile van Essen <emile@airesearch.nl>
To: personal_submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Sat, May 12, 2012 3:37 pm
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] aluminum to steel

Magnesium corrodes quickly but Zink on a sub with Alu parts seems not useful
to me..
 
Electric leakage; should be avoided. Does anybody know the right way to
measure it??
 
I prefer to anodise the Alu parts. Looks good, is corrosion resistant and
the ALu is not conductive anymore.
 
Delrin/nylon washers are also a good idea!
 
Emile
 
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] Namens Vance Bradley
Verzonden: zaterdag 12 mei 2012 20:58
Aan: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Onderwerp: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] aluminum to steel
 
Every week? Sounds like a high resistance short to ground. Our zincs lasted
2-3 YEARS in and around Norway. For anodes, we used zincs on steel and
magnesium on aluminum. They all lasted a good while unless there was an
electrical problem, which we corrected ASAP.
Vance
 
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On May 12, 2012, at 12:14 PM, MerlinSub@t-online.de wrote:
 
> Sounds right. 
> But in saltwater use you have still to use zink anodes to protect your
aluminium.
> On Kreideseesub we have to exhange the anodes in salt water (Norway) every
week.. 
> 
> vbr Carsten
> 
> "ojaivalleybeefarm @dslextreme.com" <ojaivalleybeefarm@dslextreme.com>
schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>           I've been contemplating using aluminum as a truss type
structure
>> to hold one part of my sub.  As long as I isolate the two dissimilar
metals
>> I should be ok ?  Right ?   Where the it is bolted together I was going
to
>> have a separating "gasket" made out of rubber or a tough plastic. and
then
>> where the bolts go through I would have sleeves around the bolts.  Sound
ok
>> ?  Any comments would be greatly appreciated.  thanks.
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
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