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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] aluminum to steel



I'll have to look for the grade. I don't remember. But we used large bits, 1/2" thick by about 2"X8" or so. Bedded in white lead against bare aluminum.
Vance


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From: Hugh Fulton <hc.fulton@gmail.com>
To: personal_submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Sat, May 12, 2012 8:09 pm
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] aluminum to steel

Wonder how old I have to get to get these sales guys to stop B.S’ing me.  Is there a particular grade of magnesium Vance.  What size magnesium anodes did you use and where can I get some that don’t cost an arm and a leg?  Thks, Hugh
 
 
 
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of vbra676539@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, 13 May 2012 11:47 a.m.
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] aluminum to steel
 
Hmm. Let me see. Perry built 20-some subs. All of them used magnesium on the aluminum parts. All. And the magnesium lasted....oh, pretty much exactly as I said. Wonder where your guy gets his information?
Vance

-----Original Message-----
From: Hugh Fulton <hc.fulton@gmail.com>
To: personal_submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Sat, May 12, 2012 6:14 pm
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] aluminum to steel
I contacted an anode supplier here and told him I wanted a bunch of magnesium for protecting the aluminium and was told that magnesium is too reactive and wont last 5 minutes in Saltwater but they use magnesium in fresh water and zinc in salt water.
So to save me looking up my ECS I am taking this guys word for it and bought some zinc rod and will machine it into buttons to bolt onto various fittings.
Mercury have anodes bolted on to protect their aluminium sternlegs etc and it looks like zinc to me.  Hugh
 
 
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of vbra676539@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, 13 May 2012 7:58 a.m.
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] aluminum to steel
 
Anodized aluminum works nicely if well done. There are pinhole issues with it that cause some problems, and threading is always an issue. Any thread in aluminum must be carefully cleaned and filled so that salt water is excluded, as the salts will cause a buildup and jam SS bolts tight.
 
Shorts in the electrical system are measured one piece at a time. Each component must test clean. A good maritime electrician is the person you want for this. They know how to look for the minor short circuits and chase them down.
 
I agree that magnesium corrodes quickly, but stipulate that it corrodes quickly when there is electrical potential, not otherwise. If your electrical system is clean, then magnesium will not control quickly. If you see it begin to corrode during a dive operation, then set to work, as you have a short circuit somewhere (probably in the lighting or thruster wiring, in my experience).
 
Vance
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From: Emile van Essen <emile@airesearch.nl>
To: personal_submersibles <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Sat, May 12, 2012 3:37 pm
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] aluminum to steel
Magnesium corrodes quickly but Zink on a sub with Alu parts seems not useful
to me..
 
Electric leakage; should be avoided. Does anybody know the right way to
measure it??
 
I prefer to anodise the Alu parts. Looks good, is corrosion resistant and
the ALu is not conductive anymore.
 
Delrin/nylon washers are also a good idea!
 
Emile
 
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Van: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] Namens Vance Bradley
Verzonden: zaterdag 12 mei 2012 20:58
Aan: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Onderwerp: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] aluminum to steel
 
Every week? Sounds like a high resistance short to ground. Our zincs lasted
2-3 YEARS in and around Norway. For anodes, we used zincs on steel and
magnesium on aluminum. They all lasted a good while unless there was an
electrical problem, which we corrected ASAP.
Vance
 
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On May 12, 2012, at 12:14 PM, MerlinSub@t-online.de wrote:
 
> Sounds right. 
> But in saltwater use you have still to use zink anodes to protect your
aluminium.
> On Kreideseesub we have to exhange the anodes in salt water (Norway) every
week.. 
> 
> vbr Carsten
> 
> "ojaivalleybeefarm @dslextreme.com" <ojaivalleybeefarm@dslextreme.com>
schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>           I've been contemplating using aluminum as a truss type
structure
>> to hold one part of my sub.  As long as I isolate the two dissimilar
metals
>> I should be ok ?  Right ?   Where the it is bolted together I was going
to
>> have a separating "gasket" made out of rubber or a tough plastic. and
then
>> where the bolts go through I would have sleeves around the bolts.  Sound
ok
>> ?  Any comments would be greatly appreciated.  thanks.
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
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