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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Air compensating motors



Had this reply off line from the famous Karl Stanley re air compensation,
asked him if he minded me posting his reply as I thought it was good, & he said "no problem"
 
Alan-
 I air compensated motors on both  my subs- it is quite easy- use a 1st stage scuba regulator- and take out the spring- (now the minimum amount of pressure needed to move the piston or diagram will be the pressure  inside the motor-  you can tap 1/8th npt into the LP ports-  I let the shaft seal on the motor bleed out the pressure on the way up- I  have used this to 2660 feet-
 
Went down to the dive shop with my old first stage & got them to pull it apart & yes very easy to modify.
I'm going to try some small springs to over pressurize the motors a bit & put a pressure relief valve in the system rather
than letting the air leak out the shaft seal on expansion.
The first stage without spring also looks like a good option for equalizing an ambient sub.  Using a second stage seems
to be the norm, but it's fragile diaphragm looks vulnerable if there is a pressure differential caused by the slow equalization
of the hull during descent Was sucking in water from a perforated diaphragm on my last scuba dive so became aware of the
diaphragms fragility.
Regards Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan James
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 8:36 AM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Air compensating motors

Hi all,
I have epoxied some brass nipples into my motor  wiring outlets ready for compensating.
At this stage I can either go air or oil. Had considered oil as the way I was going till yesterday.
I have an old 2nd stage regulator that I pulled apart, & was thinking it would be easy to replace
the mouth piece with a tube that fed to a manifold with 4 outlets & then on to my 4 motors.
The regulator could be adjusted to pressurize the motors at a certain psi above ambient.
The outlet valves on the regulator would need blocking off as they open at a very low pressure.
They would need replacing with an over pressure valve placed somewhere in the system for ascent
when the air in the motors expand.
I have a couple of BCD over expansion valves that open at around 3psi.
Is less than 3psi going to be a suitable pressure for compensating the motors?
Has anyone had any experience with air compensating motors?
Thanks
Alan