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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries



The initial cost of any Li-on is certainly going to be higher than lead-acid, but the lithium-iron-phosphate (LFP) has such a longer life span both in charging cycles and calendar time (shelf life) that it should more than offset the initial cost.  Still, there is a time lag before you hit that point. 
 
I would think there are also significant advantages in weight, volume, and flexibility in location.  The biggest negative  with Li-on other than initial cost has always been the thermal issue. The LFP's solve that but at some sacrifice of energy density.  It's very likely that a substitute for iron that will increase energy density will be available before long.  Sadly, it doesn't appear that a substitute for money will be forthcoming.
 
For a vessel that initially will be powered by lead-acid, It might be a good idea during the design phase to provide for a possible conversion to newer battery technology at some point in the future (weight, balance, etc.).
 
Jim T
 
In a message dated 6/3/2011 8:47:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jonw@psubs.org writes:
Hi Alan,

The battery specs cite a 2.8v nominal voltage so I'm curious why the web site states 3.2v.  Assuming 3.2v is correct, you would have to put 4 of these batteries in series to get a minimum of 12v at only 40 Ah.  Another eight batteries would be required to get enough current capacity to equal a 120Ah lead-acid, for a cost of $720 not including the hardware to bind the batteries together.  A lead-acid battery of the same specs is about $250.

Jon


On 6/3/2011 4:07 AM, Alan James wrote:
Hi,
Firstly, "Carsten don't eat the cucumbers".
Secondly, I was talking to a battery importer today, who is bringing in a load
of Chinese "Thunder Sky"  Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries. I googled them & came up with this
Oakland, California based dealer & thought the prices were looking good.
These are 3.2 volt & can be linked together to form whatever voltage, using their accessories.
They seem almost good enough to compete with lead acid batteries for best bang for your buck.
Regards Alan