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Thanks Hugh, always good to get feedback. Yes definately advantage for exploring the sea floor. Always trade offs in designs. What I am attempting to acheive is good surface and mid-ocean performance at a speed of between 4 to 8 knots. Not practical for investigating the sea floor but very useful to keep up with mitgrating sea life. Thinking along the lines of X-craft and Seahund, and the Australian B1 submarine from WW1.

One prop for electric and diesel power, about 1/2 year in diameter 3 of 4 course pitch which was apparently the arrangement for these mini-subs.

I have changed the stern egress from a dome arrangement to a conning tower using cyclinder arylic so as to give more freeboard to the hatchway. It does open to the stern not forward as I figure there is 20 foot of deck out in front and no much to the stern to deflect waves. Have added side panels of arylic for wave deflection port and starboard.

Figure on an oversized duct for the prop that pivots to act as a rudder, I saw a Seahund with this arrangement in a book I have and the comments where favourable to this arrangement. Acts only as a rudder not as a duct way for prop performance but apparently not necessary for the type of prop and rpms.

The design also has a generous twin keel for settling on the bottom. There is a bow recess which could be used for an ROV to launch once resting on the sea floor relatively close to whatever you want to explore. Could be a fairly small ROV because no need to tow hugh amount of cable.

Have created a blog with restricted access. Anyone from Psubs can download the CAD once done for component parts, the password is oceans7

www.psubs.engineer.net.au

Very thankfull of the information share on the Psubs network.

Once again thank for the feedback.

Cheers, Lawrie.




On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:54:43 +1200, "Hugh Fulton" <hc.fulton@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Lawrie,
You have taken away the forward/bottom viewing window.  This is the
most important view in a sub as your view will not see the bottom for
about 10 meters which restricts you to only good visibility dives.
K350's can see the bottom with 1 meter vis.  Have a look at KSS euro
sub  Big forward viewing.  Put in your eye position in the dome and
calculate the refraction angle then see where you can see the bottom.
Chs,  Hugh



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Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2011 7:45 p.m.
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Dart 32 , a diesel/electric boat
incorporating k350 pressure vessel dimensions...

 A big good day to all.

 I have been working on a design incorporating the dimensions of the
 K350 and other vessels/pods of shorter length to create a 32 foot
diesel/electric submarine with sufficient central keel area for VBTs and drop weight. As opposed to a central, single keel there are two keels
 which make up the superstructure that holds all the component parts
 together.

 Please let me know what you think, suggestions, errors, and ideas.
 Have uploaded the drawings to:

 http://www.psubs.org/projects/1280105118/dart-32/

Incidentally I notice that the subscribe mail at psubs does not always allow attachments, can anyone tell me the policy, size of file to allow
 attachements?

 Cheers, Lawrie.




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