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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Herve Jaubert on trail over Exomos



Hi Ian,
Yeah a lot of work there. It's only rated to 57 ft. I wonder if that is due
to the number of air cylinders required to equalize the large cabin at deeper depths?
Specifications---
http://www.ossapowerlite.com/customers/exomos/proteus/exomos_proteus.htm
He was selling a military version & says in the quote below that he had orders from Indonesia.

"Jaubert says that his submarines are also popular with the police and coast guards, and that Indonesia has ordered submarines from his company for military purposes."

"My submarines are the only ones that can be operated in shallow waters, the big subs they can't go there because it's too close and not deep enough. So I'm the only one to be able to go into the water in shallow waters which makes it easier for the police to hide and make surveillance of the coastal waters, it's very effective. And on top of that my submarines don't even look like a submarine, they look like a boat. So it's deceptive," says Jaubert.

Might make a good drug sub??
Alan


----- Original Message ----- From: "irox" <irox@ix.netcom.com>
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Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Herve Jaubert on trail over Exomos



Well, this is supposed $8million:
http://www.submarineboat.com/submarine_yacht.htm


-----Original Message-----
From: Alan James <alanjames@xtra.co.nz>
Sent: Feb 19, 2011 12:11 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Herve Jaubert on trail over Exomos

Hi Marc,
There's also the question of what happened with  the $31 million in debt
Herve racked up.
I personally have a mistrust of French secret agents after seeing the "Rainbow
Warrior"  lying on it's side in Auckland harbor after being bombed by French frog
men ( & a frog woman).
I believe Phil Nuyten was a consultant for Exomos, perhaps Jon could extract some
insider comment from him at the Underwater Intervention Conference over the next couple
of days.
Regards Alan


----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc de Piolenc" <piolenc@archivale.com>
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Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Herve Jaubert on trail over Exomos


Maybe someone can explain this to me:

First they buy three subs from Jaubert.

Then they invite him to move - lock, stock and barrel - to Dubai.

THEN they say he's incompetent, his products are shoddy and he's dishonest, as alleged in the Florida lawsuit.

And oh yes - he escaped from Dubai in one of those shoddy, unsafe submarines.

Yea, right!

Best,
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On 2/19/2011 1:04 PM, irox wrote:

I am not sure if anybody is really interested in this, but I've
compile to exerts from the press coverage that might be of
interest.

Herve used to be on the mailing list.

Cheers,
  Ian.



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[[A submarine accident]]
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2011/feb/15/dubai-world-initially-excited-to-find-stuart-sub/


Miller on Tuesday recounted how most of Jaubert's submarines that they
tested were unsafe and often leaked.

"Sometimes they leaked a little bit," he said, "and sometimes they
were significant."

While testing one submersible underwater, Miller said he watched it turn
nose up, flip over and ram into mud, temporarily trapping the diver inside.




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[[Phil Nuytten asked to testify]]
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2011/feb/17/no-headline---tc_mc_dubai_trial/


To that end, Dubai World lawyers called to testify Canadian diving
pioneer Phil Nuytten, founder of the undersea technology company Nuytco
Research Ltd. He told jurors when he visited Dubai in 2006 to review
Jaubert’s submarine prototypes, he was impressed with the operation but
worried over a submersible yacht dubbed Proteus, built to operate on the
surface and dive underwater with 14 people onboard.

He said he feared the systems Jaubert was using on the Proteus would
fail to maintain the proper pressure underwater.

“I was concerned about the physical possibility of the vessel working
as it was designed,” Nuytten said. “There are huge liability possibilities.”




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[[The embezzling part isn't so interesting, things like over charging.]]
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2011/feb/16/dubai-world-audits-show-lot-money-unaccounted-subs/


In one example, Yip testified that records showed Jaubert in 2005 charged
Exomos $186,600 for two "hydrojets" that a supplier actually sold him for
$162,772. Jaubert, she said, also billed Exomos for a $18,600 service charge
paid to his Seahorse Submarine firm.

"In other words, he padded the price that he added the service charge to?"
asked Dubai World attorney Jon C. Cederberg.

"Correct," Yip replied.


-----Original Message-----
From: irox<irox@ix.netcom.com>
Sent: Feb 15, 2011 9:57 AM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Herve Jaubert on trail over Exomos


In Fort Piece, Fl:
http://www.bradenton.com/2011/02/15/2957751/submarines-for-sultans-trial-begins.html
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2011/feb/10/trial-starts-monday-to-decide-if-former-stuart/




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