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cI will attend a beer fest in Germany before I die I hope...sounds like fun. David Bartsch > From: alanjames@xtra.co.nz > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Regulators, barometers and oxygen > Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 05:13:07 +1300 > > I meant night as in tonight newyears eve. > You know, celebration, party, German beer festival. > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MerlinSub@t-online.de> > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> > Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 2:05 AM > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Regulators, barometers and oxygen > > > A Good night?? > > muahhh... > > I am on the other side of the planet and just breakfast.. > > vbr Carsten > > > > "Alan James" <alanjames@xtra.co.nz> schrieb: > > Thanks, > > have a good night. > > Alan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <MerlinSub@t-online.de> > > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> > > Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 12:46 AM > > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Regulators, barometers and oxygen > > > > > > Alan, Aircraft altimeter are adjustable. > > > > Adjust them to the half of the scale to zero (like an airfield in 16.000feet high..) > > and it works in both directions.. > > > > I would adjust mine Mig15 Altimter to 2000 meter high. > > So it indicate - 2000 up to + 8000 meter. > > > > I have no idea if you can do the same with a skydiver altimeter. > > > > vbr carsten > > > > > > > > "Alan James" <alanjames@xtra.co.nz> schrieb: > > > Carsten, > > > How come you & Phil are talking about altimeters. > > > They only measure pressure below 1 atm. > > > Wouldn't it be better to have a barometer that indicated over pressure as well? > > > Also when is the Euronaut going in the water?, must be nearly finished. > > > Alan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <MerlinSub@t-online.de> > > > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> > > > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 11:32 PM > > > Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Regulators, barometers and oxygen > > > > > > > > > Scuba diving without minimum three feet of ice over the head? Why? > > > > > > -Last scuba dive 2 years ago..- :-( > > > > > > I just count the regulatos in Euronaut: > > > > > > 01) Main Oxygen regulator in control room (CR) HP to LP, with gauge > > > 02) Oxygen flow needle vale in CR, LP to ambient, with flow gauge > > > 03) Oxygen flow needle vale in diver chamber (DR), LP to ambient, with flow gauge > > > 04) Main Pressure reducer from HP to LP for the hard tanks in CR > > > This one is a big industrial one. With gauge. > > > 05) 1 Emergency scuba two stage regulators with Octopus on the HP Valve board in Machinery Room > > > 06) 4 Emergency scuba regulator second stage (octopus) on the ceiling of the saloon. > > > 07) 1 Scuba regulator first stage behind the saloon walls to feed 06) with gauge > > > 08) 1 Emergenny scuba regulator both stages with octopus in the diver chamber from the HP line > > > > > > If the Euronaut will retiered in 30 years or so I can feed a scuba diver museum with a douzend different regulators alone. All > > > regulators are inside and with exeption of 04) with quick connectors for maintance. > > > > > > The sub has 40 m3 inside volume. The O2 bottle in use is inside has just 2 m3 or 5% of the internal volume. > > > The bottle in use reach about 83 hour for one or 21 hours for four persons. Very fine for a weekend. > > > If the main valve of this bottle fails and all oxygen goes into the hull it will incrase the oxygen level from 21 to max 26%. > > > There is a second bottle as spare but not conneted inside. And there are four more o2 bottles with a total volume of 44 m3 > > > outside - reach for 4 guys about one months.. > > > > > > The "barometer" is an altimeter from a old russian MIG 15. Goes up to 10.000 meter (33.000 feet)(The russians use also > > > metric - > > > very nice) During underpressure test with closed hatches and running diesel we reach 5.000 meter (16.500 feet)in 5 Minutes > > > before > > > illness of all three peersons started. For a smaller sub I would use a smaller skydiver altimeter as Phil allready indicate. > > > Original I was looking for a altimeter from a Ju 87 Stuka. This unit comes with a adjustable second nice red indicator with > > > close > > > at the right high a electic contact to drop the bomb. In our case to stopp the diesel. But I was to late on the auction. > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.at/Orig-Kontakt-Hoehenmesser-Ju-87-Stuka-Fl-22317-1943-/250728825890 > > > > > > :-) Carsten > > > > > > > > > "Hugh Fulton" <hc.fulton@gmail.com> schrieb: > > > > Emile, > > > > > > > > I cannot understand how a clever person will Scuba dive in 1 degree. I > > > > think you are crazy. J > > > > > > > > You will never find me in under 10 degrees. However it is nice to know that > > > > the equipment works in those temperatures. > > > > > > > > Happy new year, > > > > > > > > Hugh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > > > [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Emile van Essen > > > > Sent: Friday, 31 December 2010 10:55 a.m. > > > > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > > > Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Regulators > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hugh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The number 1 or 4 is the number of low pressure ports. 1 LP port is needed. > > > > > > > > We monitor the content of the bottle with a gauge outside . To be viewed > > > > trough the the dome. This saves throughhulls and plumbing. > > > > > > > > Cheers, Emile > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps. The Apeks is also good in cold water; I dived yesterday SCUBA in water > > > > of 1 Deg. Celcius. : no freezing problems but sub dives are warmer?.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Van: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > > > [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] Namens Hugh Fulton > > > > Verzonden: donderdag 30 december 2010 22:34 > > > > Aan: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > > > Onderwerp: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Regulators > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Emile and Sean, > > > > > > > > I have never come across Apeks but just googled it and now better informed. > > > > I will go with Apeks 1st stage. What is the difference between DS1 and > > > > DS4? > > > > > > > > I like the idea of all regs outside with secondary regs inside, if required, > > > > for oxygen where constant pressure for constant flow is required. I am > > > > looking for a small panel mount second stage now. > > > > > > > > The only problem with regs outside is you need another 2 ports for contents > > > > monitoring. I am a bit short of through hull?s. I have 12 x ¼?npt and 10 x > > > > ½? npt and 2 x 1? npt. I thought that would have been heaps. > > > > > > > > I have finally had my hull tested at 515 ft with windows in and now fitting > > > > the hull to the fibreglass fairing. Getting closer. Chs, Hugh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > > > [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Sean T. > > > > Stevenson > > > > Sent: Friday, 31 December 2010 9:30 a.m. > > > > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > > > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Regulat > > > > > > > > I just want to second the endorsement of Apeks SCUBA regulators. I have > > > > used many different makes and models over the years, and the Apeks are the > > > > only ones I never regretted purchasing. I have several DS4's and a couple > > > > of the newer ones, and will no longer buy anything else. > > > > > > > > -Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > On 30/12/2010 12:15 PM, Emile van Essen wrote: > > > > > > > > Hugh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You mean the dive tank regulators right ? > > > > > > > > They reduce the pressure to about 10 Bar over ambient. If you have them > > > > inside, You cannot blow tanks when you are deeper than 100 Metres (=10 Bar) > > > > > > > > So better store tanks an regulators outside on a 1ATM sub. > > > > > > > > For oxygen no difference but store outside saves room inside? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I Like the Apeks DS1 or DS4 but any rugged and common regulator will do the > > > > job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Emile > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Van: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > > > [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] Namens Hugh Fulton > > > > Verzonden: donderdag 30 december 2010 20:53 > > > > Aan: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > > > Onderwerp: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Regulators > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Placement of regulators and choice of them. > > > > > > > > For Air and oxygen. Is it best to have the regulators inside or outside the > > > > pressure hull? I noticed that some have the regs outside and others inside. > > > > > > > > What brand/models have people found the best? 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