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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nautilus vs Skate



The Skate surfaced through the ice nine times in early August of 1958.  It sounds like they were conducting experiments in identifying/locating and exploiting penetration points, and determining the subs capabilities.  Apparently the Nautilus didn't have the capability to penetrate ice as thick as could the Skate class subs.
 
Although I was very young, I remember what a big deal it was when the Nautilus was launched and when it traversed the ice cap a few years later.  I don't recall hearing anything about the Skate at the time.  Later (can't remember when) we were astounded that a sub could poke up through the arctic ice.  I would guess that is only possible for several weeks in the summer.
 
Jim
 
In a message dated 9/23/2010 12:28:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, greg@precisionplastics.com writes:
According to information contained on this website, The Skate was at the
North Pole on August 12, 1958 (which was 9 days after the Nautilus).

http://www.south-pole.com/aspp05.htm


It is also interesting that The Skate officially received a Navy "unit
Commendation Award" in 1958 but no one seems to know what for.

Greg Cottrell
Project Manager


greg@precisionplastics.com
http://www.precisionplastics.com

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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:10 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Nautilus vs Skate



On 9/23/2010 11:11 PM, JimToddPsub@aol.com wrote:
> The Nautilus was the first to traverse the polar ice cap.  It's been
> given credit for being the first to reach the /geographic/ North Pole
> August 3, 1958. The Skate was the first sub to surface at the North Pole
> (geographic? magnetic?) on August 2, 1958.

Definitely the geographic pole; the magnetic pole is on dry land! The
Nautilus reached the pole under the ice, but did not surface. The Skate,
which did not exist yet when Nautilus did its polar run, later surfaced
at the pole. There is no question about priority. Skate has a slightly
stronger claim to have been EXACTLY at the pole because it was able to
fix its position by sun sights; Nautilus had to rely on two (possibly
more) electronic navigation systems, including a special inertial rig
that had been installed just for that trip.

"The Seadragon surfaced on the
> same date and exchanged greetings with the Skate. I don't know why the
> Nautilus is given credit instead of the Skate.

The Seadragon/Skate meeting was later - not the day that Skate first
surfaced at the pole. Skate seems to have spent a great deal of her life
in Arctic waters.

Marc



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