Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Does anybody have a copy of this book?

In a message dated 9/23/2010 10:59:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, piolenc@archivale.com writes:

The Skate was not even built when "Nautilus 90 North" took place. Skate
was the US's 3rd nuclear sub; Nautilus was the first. The story has to
be wrong.
Your friend may have been confused by the fact that Skate was the first
to *surface* at the Pole, allowing it to get a firm, unquestionable
celestial navigation fix. Nautilus, below the ice, had to rely on an
inertial system supplemented by (I think) LORAN, so it could have been a
little bit off. Hardly a basis for denying it priority, in my opinion.

Best,
Marc

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On 9/23/2010 10:25 PM, Greg Cottrell wrote:
> A few year ago I had some dealings with a former submariner that lived
> in Deale Md. He told me a crazy story (that is probably not true but
> I’ll relay it anyway). He “matter of factly” told me that the Nautilus
> was not the first sub to reach the pole but was given credit as being
> the first for some sort of political reasons. He went on to say that a
> sub called “skate” was actually first. Again, I have no reason to
> believe this but he sure told the story like HE believed it.
>
> Greg Cottrell
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> *From:* owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] *On Behalf Of *Cliff Redus
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:47 AM
> *To:* personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Does anybody have a copy of this book?
>
> I don't have the book you reference but in the book titled "The Last
> Emperor Hubert Wilkins - Australia's Unknown Hero",
> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Explorer-Hubert-Wilkins-Australias/dp/0733618316/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1285248073&sr=1-1-spell
> <http://www.amazon.com/Last-Explorer-Hubert-Wilkins-Australias/dp/0733618316/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1285248073&sr=1-1-spell>
>
> there is a chapter titled "The voyage of the Nautilus" that covers this
> episode in which an old WWI submarine was used in an ill fated
> expedition to explore below the North Pole in 1931.
>
> This book is very good read and a true story. Even though Wilkins is
> largely unknown to the world, the US Navy held him in such high esteem
> that they conducted a covert operation at the height of the cold war in
> which the USS Skate commanded by Captain James Calvert March 17, 1959
> surfaced at the North Pole to deliver the ashes of this man who was
> neither an American nor ever served in the US Navy.
>
> Cliff
>

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