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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: Interested in taking the ABS "Classification of Submersibles"course?

Hi Ian,
I would love to take the course but fear that it may be aimed aty the Navy etc who have no limits on money.
I would like to have a more focussed course on the minimums for small submersibles rather than being lumped in with complex electrical, navsystems, firefighting designs which the larger subs have.
As you are in contact with the appropriate body could you ask if it is appropriate to mix navy/ABS courses with small submersible designer/operators?  Thanks for the perseverance.  Hugh


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of irox
Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 7:40 a.m.
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: Interested in taking the ABS "Classification of Submersibles"course?


Still $1000 per person from what I understand - the issue here is that
I might need security clearance.  If possible, I intended to take the
course, I will report back on the course material and quality,
maybe also consider teaching it at a psubs convention.

Having ABS teach the course at a psubs convention would be great, I
some how don't think they would drop the price to $100-$200 range,
but maybe they could cut down the course size (say one day instead
of two) and adjust the price proportionately.

I think there is scope of getting the course held in a difference city,
but not sure if this will impact the cost.

Since we have a few sub professionals, I wondering has anybody on
the list taken this course, or knows somebody who has?

Thanks!
  Ian.

-----Original Message-----
>From: jimtoddpsub@aol.com
>Sent: Aug 25, 2010 2:33 PM
>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: Interested in taking the ABS "Classification of Submersibles"course?
>
>Ian,
>
>What was the cost going to be if they got you in with the Navy group?  Still $1000 per person?
>
>Jim T
>Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: irox <irox@ix.netcom.com>
>Sender: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:00:19 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
>To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Re: Interested in taking the ABS "Classification of Submersibles"
> course?
>
>
>Hi,
>
>since I didn't get any takers on this, I'll rephrase the question.
>
>Why aren't you taking this course?
>
>Cheers!
>  Ian.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: irox <irox@ix.netcom.com>
>>Sent: Jun 24, 2010 2:02 PM
>>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>Subject: Interested in taking the ABS "Classification of Submersibles" course?
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>The American Bureau of Shipping runs a course called:
>> "Classification of Submersibles".  
>>
>>I've include the course description/highlights below.  The course
>>is a two day course, it will cost $1000 per person and be taught
>>in Huston, Texas.  If you are (seriously) interested in taking the
>>course, please contact me off list, please include a list of time
>>frames you can take the course.  We need a minimum of four people (so
>>I am looking for three others - although we can accommodate more).
>>Once we have enough people signed up I will schedule the course with ABS.
>>
>>If I don't find enough people I still plan on taking the course some
>>how.  ABS offered to try and get me into the course being taught to
>>the Navy, but it clashes with this years psub convention.  I might
>>be able to get in on another Navy course (yet to be scheduled) later
>>this fall.
>>
>>Thanks,
>> Ian.
>>--
>>
>>Course:
>> Classification of Submersibles     (REG015)
>>
>>
>>Course Objectives and Benefits
>>------------------------------
>>
>>This course is intended to enhance participants’ familiarity with
>>submersible design concepts, the requirements of the ABS Rules for
>>classification of submersibles and relevant industry standards.
>>This includes review of the factors that must be considered in
>>designing a system and specifying the components for compliance
>>with the ABS requirements.
>>
>>Course Highlights
>>-----------------
>>
>> * Introduction
>> * Engineering aspects of
>>    o Pressure Hull and Exostructure
>>    o Windows and Viewports
>>    o Piping and Life Support Systems
>>    o Electrical Systems
>>    o Buoyancy - Emergency Ascent and Stability
>>    o Fire Fighting
>>    o Navigation and Communication Equipment
>>    o Propulsion Systems and Steering Equipment 
>> * Surveys during construction
>> * Surveys after construction for maintenance of classification throughout service life
>>    o Periodical surveys
>>    o Unscheduled surveys 
>>
>>Who Should Attend
>>-----------------
>>
>>System designers, site teams and owners technical and maintenance engineers.
>>
>
>
>
>
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