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Alan,Go with the K-350 350 dove tail design. There is nothing wrong with having an O-ring snap into the dove tail grove to hold it in place. As far as the amount of squeeze, refer to an O-ring manual to be sure the K design is what is recommended for the ring your using.Dan H----- Original Message -----From: Alan JamesSent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:29 AMSubject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] O ring grovesHi submarine experts,I'm looking at hatch O rings & groves.I see that on the K250 hatch plan the o ring grove is dovetailed on the inner edge.Is this done on the K350?I think I can remember hearing advice to buy an O ring slightly smaller than thegrove diameter so that it is held up against this dove tailed edge. I've been readingthat the dove tail grove is not recommended & that the O ring should start off central in the grove.Also I've seen some hatches with the O ring grove in the lower (conning tower)side hatch face.Has anybody got any thoughts / words of wisdom on this thanks.Regards Alan