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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Acrylic conning tower



Alan,
 
Sorry about the digital signature, those emails go out encrypted by the US Navy.  I do, as you can see have a second email address on the mailing lists. 
 Thanks for the info on the acrylic.  My application is probably smaller than Brian's but I can't know for sure.  The problem that I've been worrying about with the dome/tower is obviously $$$. 
I assume that the domes run higher in cost than the cylinders due to the methods of fabrication.  At this point for me all inquiries would be of a fact finding nature, I still havent finished the final design for the sub.
The numbers you did have are quite useful in gauging the costs for a certain size of acrylic.
 
Thanks,
 
Ben

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Alan James <alanjames@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

From: Alan James <alanjames@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Acrylic conning tower
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:31 PM

Hi Ben,
Re the strength comparison of the cylinder to the dome; the hemisphere is a
stronger shape than the cylinder but its a little bit like comparing apples with pears.
A cylinder at 500mm OD, 250mm long (or high) & 20mm thick would have a crush
depth of 1500ft & have a volume of 50 liters.
A hemisphere at 500mm OD, 250 mm high & 20mm thick would have a crush depth
of 2,770ft & a volume of 34 liters.
A nominal hemisphere of a similar 50 liter volume to the cylinder could be 570mm OD.
This at 20mm thick has a crush depth of 2,100 ft.
The hemisphere is more economical with space as its more compatible with the shape
of your head.
The cylinder, in a large dimension like Brian has, can act as your conning tower with a
hatch on top of it. This puts you that much higher above the water level to stop wash
coming in, whereas a dome is mounted & hinges open at the base.
Interestingly enough I just received an email to an enquiry on the price of stock acrylic cylinders.
Their 500mm OD, 20mm thick cast acrylic, at 3 meters long was US $1,300 per piece.
You could get 12 x 250mm sections out of this at $108- each plus freight from China.
I will qualify this before I get "shot down" in that you'd need to go wider for a conning tower
& possibly thicker & check the technical specifications of the material. This was an initial quick
search, but could be a way of coming up with an inexpensive tower / viewport. You could
cut your length off their standard 3 meters & sell the rest off as a fish tank.
Alan
P.S have trouble with your emails in that I can't "reply to sender" because it comes up with a
a message " you cannot send digitally encripted messages because you do not have a digital
I.D. for this account"