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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] through hull reinforcement



Alan,

I am not wanting to dampen your enthusiasm but I think you need to design the scrubber, battery switches, VBT internal spare battery,  Coms, valves, motor controllers,  etc and allow for your 72 hours safety time and make mockups of those to put into your foam model.  Cliff Redus and Nuytco designs are as small as you can get them.  Even with fiberglass if you cant make them out of steel /alumiinium then the design will have to be many times thicker.  i.e. cylindrical / conical / spherical designs are also going to be best for fiberglass as well.  Too small a personal space makes air control too sensitive.  Have you considered all this? Deepworker is about as space conscious as you can get.  Try and talk to Cliff.  If the space is too small then you will end up having to add a lot of floatation. Just my penny’s worth.  Hugh

 

 

From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Alan James
Sent: Monday, 31 May 2010 8:40 a.m.
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] through hull reinforcement

 

Thanks Jon & hi Brian,

Brian, the hull is similar to Graham Hawkes "Aviator" wich was made out of cast aluminum.

I'm trying to make this as small as possible so that I have the convenience of launching it off

the beach etc. The shape is too complex for me to make out of steel.

I'm designing this using a simple pressure program & a large block of polystyrene that I've carved out

to fit me & the subs internal componentry. once finalized I can contour the polystyrene exterior to within

.5" of the interior & just fiberglass over the outside.

The small dimentions make it more suitable for using fiberglass. Mostly I'll be about .5" thick (apart from reinforcements)

& this will give me a 1000 ft crush depth for an operating depth of about 250ft. However this will be confirmed

once my final design is analyzed. The composite engineering program will also come up with a laminate lay up plan.

Regards Alan

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Cox

Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 1:07 AM

Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] through hull reinforcement

 

Why are you making it out of fiberglass?

 

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of Alan James
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 1:00 AM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] through hull reinforcement

Hi people,

I need to design the reinforcement of the area around my hatch seat.

I've read that with through hulls a general rule is you replace as much material as has been removed

at a 1/4 gradiant.

My sub is small & is being made of fiberglass. At this stage I'm just trying to get in the ballpark with

my design calculations, as I intend to take take my drawings to a composite engineer & get them

analysed & corrected where necessary.

Would the reinforcement be better on the inside of the hull, the outside, or divided evenly on both sides.???

Thanks regards Alan

P.S. To European & South African psubbers. NewZealand hot favourites for the world cup.



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