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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fort Pierce - Boat Ramp




Just my 2 cents worth, but I've found that keeping a low profile is the way to go.
 
If your vessel has been assigned a state registration number then it is registered vessel- period. If approached by local authorities on the water, show that you have all the required safety gear for your size vessel. That there is nothing out of the ordinary happening and that you are in compliance. If you look like you know what you are doing, they will chat for a minute and leave.
 
As soon as you start asking for "special" permission, the first assumption will be that YOU don't know the law, your probably a crackpot, that whatever you are about to do is dangerous, and that someone should stop you.
 
As I said, just my 2 cents.
 
Greg
 

--- On Wed, 5/19/10, Smyth, Alec <Alec.Smyth@compuware.com> wrote:

From: Smyth, Alec <Alec.Smyth@compuware.com>
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fort Pierce - Boat Ramp
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 2:48 PM

Hi all,

Frankly what would make it worthwhile to drag Snoopy down a highway for
four days is the prospect of diving her. Even if this permission issue
is resolved, a tow basin just doesn't really make for a very thrilling
venue. The prospect of a barge or the donated use of Sea Hunter seem to
have disappeared. So an alternative is to head down a day early and work
in a dive day away at some other spot. It wouldn't be part of the
group-sanctioned event, but of course if anyone here wanted to join me
they would be most welcome.

So I have a question for those of you with local knowledge. Can you
think of an alternative dive site, not in the immediate vicinity of the
convention?


Thanks,

Alec

   


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From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Jon Wallace
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:33 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Fort Pierce - Boat Ramp


Hi Frank,

While I'm with you 100% on a personal level, when it comes to a group
activity I have to be proactive and make sure I don't knowingly put
anyone in a compromising position.  I was more concerned about the
safety divers since they could be impacted by any restrictions much more
than the subs would be.  And while the subs are classified as a "boat"
in terms of registration and surface operation, once diving underwater
they would likely be held to comply with the same restrictions as scuba
divers.  Unless I am sure we are in compliance with regulations or
restrictions (regardless of the source) I just can't sanction it as a
group event.  However, this doesn't mean individuals can't make their
own decision about diving when they get down to Ft. Pierce.

My research has led me back to the Coast Guard.  US CFR Title 33,
Chapter 1, Part 165 gives the Coast Guard authority to implement safety
and security zones.  I called the Ft. Pierce Coast Guard once again
today, and after a somewhat confrontational discourse with the front
line ending with my insistence of being given the contact information of
the division commander, I was forwarded to the officer of the day who
told me he was not aware of any safety or security zones within the
inlet or harbor.  He told me he was going to do a thorough check of any
such restrictions and promised to email me back with that info.

Jon


> Jon, It's not illegal to take a boat out, and if it sinks.......oh
well !
> I'd be more concerned about boat registration issues. As long as our
> subs are registered SOMEWHERE it will be OK.
> What's the worst they can do ? tell us to get back to the ramp ?
> Vance and Jay are there doing the dirty work and if they need help
> I'll be down there pretty soon. It may not be a bad idea to look for a

> possible "second dive site" but I'm sure we're going to have lots of
> fun. We should make sure we have a video camera around at all times
> just in case Barney Fife comes around.
> I know what you mean about the general incompetence of the local
> authorities......It gets comical sometimes. Not to worry.....we're not

> breaking any laws.
> Frank D.




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