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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] stainless vs aluminum



Frank,  You're making the case for aluminum I think, at least for my application.  As far as coming in contact with cement that will not be an issue since it will only be coming in contact with epoxy coated cement.  I'm looking at having numerous brackets, like "L" brackets, so the easy thing for me would be to get some aluminum angle stock and cut it up and drill it.  Seems like a lot more issues if I tried to do that with stainless.  Stainless is impossible to drill!  
 
 I will need a "T" shaped bracket as well, if I can't find something like that's all ready made in aluminum I may have to have it fabricated.  All of the aluminum I have seen on boats is amazing looking.  I have a friend who had a whole entire boat which was aluminum, it seemed impervious to the elements.  He ran a dive charter out of the Channel Islands Harbor.  The entire hull was aluminum,  maybe it is a special grade?
 
 
 
Brian  
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of Ken Martindale
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 3:05 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] stainless vs aluminum

It’s my understanding that Stainless Steel after machining needs to be passivated. This process removes any free iron on the surface and replaces it with chromium or nickel oxide.

 

The process consists of soaking in an acid bath of primarily nitric acid with some chromic acid. I have used this on a number of objects used in the sea with positive results.

 

Jim what acid did you use in an your passivation process??

 

Ken Martindale

 

From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of ShellyDalg@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 4:08 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] stainless vs aluminum

 

In a message dated 5/7/2010 6:45:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jimrudholm@gmail.com writes:

The first overnight outside and they had a thin rust film. The cure
was to soak the parts in acid to remove embedded iron from steel tools
including drills.

This brings up a good point. When working with stainless, pieces get embedded from tools. This is evident when using a wire wheel.......gotta use a stainless wire wheel. It'll get crusty real quick. Heat control and restoring a "worked part" back to clean solid SS is the only way to minimize corrosion. For small parts like brackets it's best to use 316L-SS so the cost is kept low. Larger pieces in 304 are OK but you must watch the seams, welds, and breaks ( folds ) for any corrosion and clean it right up before it gets to be a problem.

Using ZINC sacrificial anodes helps a lot too. They will cut your corrosion way down.

Frank D.