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 A cheep lighting option I have used before underwater in 
filming situations where I want to mount a light I may not be able 
to retrieve are Automotive HID (or HMI) kits.. they are 12v or 24v, come in 
different light temps (Kelvin, 5600, 4200, 3800.) the Daylight colour works best 
underwater for eliminating back Scatter. they come in Kits with Ballast and Bulb 
for two lights. use about 50% the power of the halogen 
equivalent. 
  
   
Hi Vance, 
Thanks for that.  
I'm just converting your figures to the equivalent 
watts required for LEDs using the below figures. 
150w incandescent = 2,550 lumens or 17 lumens per watt 150w halogen = 3000 
lumens or 20 lumens per watt 150w of Fluorescents = 9,000 lumens or 60 lumens 
per watt 150w of Compact Fluorescents = 10,500 lumens or 70 lumens per 
watt 150w Metal Halide = 13,500 lumens or 90 lumens per watt 150w High 
Pressure Sodium = 16,000 lumens or 107 lumens per watt 
The LED light I was looking at was 60 lumens per watt, so your 500 watt at 17 
lumens per watt 
would equate to a 142 watt LED & the 250 watt would equate to a 71 
watt in the super bright LED. 
I hope that calculation sheds some light on the subject.  
regards Alan 
  
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  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:25 
  PM 
  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 
  Lighting 
  
  
  My experience is with the older style lights. That said, we used a 
  combination of 500 watt Snooper spotlighs and 250 watt general purpose lights 
  with wide diffusers. The subs generally carried 2 pairs of each in the bow and 
  another pair (or 2 for the longer subs) down each side so the pilot could see 
  in all directions. Depending on water clarity, etc, the pilot and observer 
  could use any of several combinations for best viewing or videoing. 
  Vance
 
  
  
  
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  Message----- From: Jay K. Jeffries <bottomgun@mindspring.com> To: 
  personal_submersibles@psubs.org Sent: Sun, Feb 14, 2010 5:36 pm Subject: 
  RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Lighting
   
  
  
  David, 
  To minimize the issue of 
  back scatter from light systems, it is best to place the light(s) pointed at 
  the area to be viewed and at a 45 degree angle in relation to the viewer (or 
  camera).  This will cut down on the light reflected back into the 
  viewer’s or camera’s eye when there is suspended matter in the 
  water. 
    
  The more light you have the 
  better your viewing experience will be.  Car light bulbs (PAR), 
  dichromatic spots or projection lights put out a lot of light but have a large 
  power drain, high intensity discharge (HID) put out a LOT of light for a much 
  smaller power drain but are expensive and easily damaged, and the latest 
  innovation just entering the market are ganged high intensity LED lights with 
  a long life (and not a catastrophic failure as all the LEDs do not fail at the 
  same time), even lower power consumption and the promise of eventually being 
  very economical. 
  R/Jay 
    
    
  
    
     Its 
  almost like considering fog lights on a car...too bright and you actually end 
  up seeing worse in a thick fog!    I would be very interested in 
  anyone's experienced response on this 
  one.                                                                                        
  David 
  Bartsch                        
    
 
     
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