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 Vance 
Do you or any one else know the max depth manned or 
unmanned that a K350 has been down to without problems? 
Glen SA 
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  Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:36 
  PM 
  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] cutting and 
  pasting 
  
  
  Brian, 
    
  3/8" will require an extra couple of feet of hull length in the K design. 
  The elliptical shells are 9/16" in the K-600. Your sub will be heavier by a 
  ton or so by the time you're done with it, if you build deeper. That said, if 
  you need the depth for future plans or local conditions, then I'd recommend 
  building for what you need and be done with it. The price of steel will be 
  less than 50% higher than its thickness and weight suggest, and you won't have 
  to go through this but once. 
    
  If greater depth is required, I'd might want to email me off site 
  about the KSS, as it is roomier and weighs just a touch more than the K-600. 
  AND it dives to 250m/800ft in standard configuration. AND it won't cost any 
  more to build. 
    
  Vance
 
  
  
  
  -----Original 
  Message----- From: Brian Cox 
  <ojaivalleybeefarm@dslextreme.com> To: Personal_Submersibles@Psubs. 
  Org <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2010 1:25 
  pm Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] cutting and pasting
   
  Hi 
  Jim, 
                 
  On my boat a number of items will be independent of the pressure hull, like 
  the battery pods, air bottles, ballast tanks, and rudder 
  controls, but I see what you mean.  I've been watching steel prices 
  and they are starting to creep up now after bottoming out.  So I'm 
  getting a little antcy about waiting any longer.  I'm thinking also to 
  just build a shallower boat first, and then later build a whole new upgrade 
  which I could swap out.    
    
  Brian 
  
    
    Hi Brian, 
      
    It's only my opinion, but there is a LOT more to it than the conning 
    tower. Any thru hulls, maybe battery pods, motor mounts and all the ribbing. 
    My thought is get started and do what you can and if the project takes 
    longer so what. That's part of the reason mine is taking as long as it is. 
    When I'm busy I have the money but not time. When I'm not busy I have the 
    time but not the money. 
      
    Best Regards, 
      
    Jim K
 
  
    On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Brian Cox  <ojaivalleybeefarm@dslextreme.com> 
    wrote:
     Hi All,          I'm having 
      a bit of a delema deciding wheather or not to go with either 3/8" thick 
      hull or 1/4" hull.  I'm thining that initially maybe I should go 
      with the 1/4" now (so I can get this off the ground) mainly due 
      to budget constraints and then at a later date upgrade to the thicker 
      hull, which would take me deeper.  My question is how hard would 
      it be to cut out the conning tower( 3/4" thick) from the 1/4" hull and 
      paste it on to a 3/8" thick hull at a later date? Would I need to grind 
      out all of the weld seam? And would that adversly effect the metal in 
      that area by rewelding?
  Thanks, 
       Brian
 
 
 
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