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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] New and needing early advice
What a great set of photos,
well worth looking at.
Alan
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From: <MerlinSub@t-online.de>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] New and needing early advice
Emile just link some more KSS Eurosub pictures from the Adria Expedition:
http://picasaweb.google.nl/submachine55/garibaldiexpedition2009#
And a friend of us is working on development of a 1000 mm diameter dome as
front doem for further version.
Hi Paul - welding is just 5 % of the job.
Peppers was build that way that I did only the non pressure welds.
Euronaut was build that way and Eurosub also. Ever Nemo and many others goes
that way.
The pressure welds was made by profi's. But the pressure welds are just
30-50 percent of all welds.
Good welds are a kind of art. Needs a good welding machine, the right
assembling gaps, good stick or wire and a good and trained worker.
But you can learn (over an weekend) easy Mig/Mag short assembling welds to
do all the steel work of the sub which is most of the work - than call a
prof over a day or two to make meters or feets of weld.
vbr Carsten
<vbra676539@aol.com> schrieb:
Talk to Carsten. The KSS is very very close to Aquarius.
Vance
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From: Gregory Snyder <greg@snyderemail.com>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Mon, Jan 4, 2010 2:17 pm
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] New and needing early advice
Hey Uncle Phil!
I don't know about these guys but I would love a do-it-yourself version of
Aquarius.
Man I love that boat...
Happy New Year!
Greg
Gregory B. Snyder
Greg@snydermail.com
From: "Phil Nuytten" <phil@philnuytten.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:27:18 -0800
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] New and needing early advice
Hi, Paul!
Always nice to see a fellow Canuck interested in subs - psubs is the
ideal place to get good info on what to do - and, more importantly, what
not to do!
Re: learning to pressure weld - if you really cast an analytical eye
over a well made personal sub - you will usually find that the bare hull
was the least expensive part of the assembly. There are lots of pipe and
head suppliers in Calgary and Edmonton - if you price out the tube to head
weld and a flange weld at a pipe shop, I think you'll find your time
better spent doing whatever it is you do, rather than trying to do it
yourself!
At Nuytco, we've thought quite a bit about putting out a kit for a sub in
the style of our old 'Sea Urchin' style sub - kind of an upgraded
Kitteridge 350 - would be pretty low cost if we can develop some decent
quantities . . . maybe time for a poll to see if there actually is any
interest.
If you need contact info for pipe/head suppliers in Canada - give me a
call at Nuytco.
Regards
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Lassen
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 9:12 PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] New and needing early advice
Hello All,
I am a new member to this discussion group and, being new to the whole
subject of personal submersibles, have a few questions for the rest of you
to help me decide if the whole idea of building my own submersible is a
sensible choice for me. I do NOT want to go further down the road of
resource, financial and emotional investment if its an unrealistic
venture.
Il tell you a bit about me, my intended submersible and also the area
where I intend to use it.
My name is Paul Lassen and am 46. I live in Rosebud, Alberta, Canada
(about as land locked as you can get) near Calgary. I have a masters
degree in Industrial Design and currently work as an acoustician who
assesses and designs solutions for industrial noise. I have spent my life
building virtually anything that strikes my fancy. Including everything
from violin family instruments, rally cars, engines, boats, product
models, homes, tools, stereo equipment electronics, on and on. I have also
been an instrumentation mechanic / technician in the oil and gas sector.
I have good confidence in my ability to build a submersible with one
exception. Welding. I have virtually no experience welding and I can only
imagine the importance of a high quality weld to the building of a safe
PSUB. Can the necessary welding skills be gained through adult education
courses, some additional reading and practice? I get the sense that at
least some of you have done just that. Am I right? If you know of good
resources for welding education then please pass their titles / URLs /
whatever along. What kind of welding is appropriate / necessary for our
kind of welding (stick, MIG, TIG)? Is there an exceptionally well suited
model of welder that people know of? Are there welder models to avoid?
My hope is to build a K-350 with my own little modes. I intend to use it
in Clayoquot Sound on the west coast of Vancouver Island in British
Columbia, Canada where I now boat regularly. On the surface its a
stunningly beautiful area of intersecting fjords and inlets but below the
water I just don't know much. Neither does anyone I've spoken with. I have
oceanfront recreational property there which can act as a good base and
the invertebrate speciation there is really second to none. Depths are
between 30 to 60 metres for perhaps 50% of the various inlets of Clayoquot
Sound while the remainder is 60 metres down to 170 metres. Visibility was
poor the one time Ie bothered to dive there (I far prefer more tropical
destinations for SCUBA) and surface observation of visibility seems to
indicate that this is the norm. Water is typically 11 C (52 F) without
much seasonal variation.
The idea of building and operating a PSUB has really captured my
imagination. I just need to know what it will take to get to a skill level
where I can make welds that will result in a safe and reliable
submersible. I also want to know if cool mirky waters (at shallow diving
depths) will allow any kind of observational enjoyment or if Il be
consistently disappointed in what I am unable to see down there. Does
visibility ever improve at depth? Finally, explain to me the reasons that
the K-350 has become such an apparently popular PSUB?
I'll be grateful for any responses.
Cheers,
Paul Lassen
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