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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reserve buoyancy



Thanks also to the Group for the nice words!

 


 

Thanks for the kind words on psubs. I appreciate it.

 

I was looking at the wreck photos again and wondered about visibility from the sub. Can you actually see the side thrusters from the small ports, and is the aft thruster visible from the dome? There don't seem to be many nets hung on the garibaldi, but I remembered that Delta got hung up on the Lusitania. They can jettison the stern section of their main ballast tank, including the prop and rudder, so freed themselves. KSS can't do that. It is something to think about as a safety feature for future subs, and perhaps for retro fit on KSS.

 

>> The pilot  has a real good overview trough the top dome, bow dome and portholes. Under an angle it is possible to see the side thrusters. For the blind spot at the stern thruster, a camera can be fitted. Jettison parts (I heard more than one story that a manipulator got stuck.) is a good point but makes the simple sub more complicated.

To avoid nets/ wreck entanglement:

--we designed clean lines so that the sub will not easy grab a line.

-- we drive it only by running forward and keep our distance from potential entanglement zones. .The passengers/observators have an active role in spotting lines and nets!

 

 

We had one or two  small collisions with the wrecks hull; both vessel ware strong enough ;-)

 

Emile

 



-----Original Message-----
From: Emile van Essen <emile@airesearch.nl>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2009 10:01 am
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reserve buoyancy

Hi Vance,

 

Some pictures on a Croatian news page. You can see the axe bow of the capsized ship!

can be translated by google.

 I have a lot of pic’s  but I have to ask because its intellectual property.

 

The main reason for having battery’s in a separate compatiment is safety. For the Eurosub we choose good quality AGM battery’s which are unlikely to explode.

The 7,2 Kw/h proved enough for whole day diving. This was without long surface transit.

 

Emile

 


Van: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] Namens vbra676539@aol.com
Verzonden: zondag 6 december 2009 15:14
Aan: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Onderwerp: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reserve buoyancy

 

Is the Garibaldi Expedition web page off line for more sub pics (I hope)?

-----Original Message-----
From: vbra676539@aol.com
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2009 9:07 am
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reserve buoyancy

Or a keel box or radially bisected pod open to the hull (sealed inside with a lid) like the old PC-5 or the Nekton series. That would provide a separate compartment for the batteries but do away with the leak problem completely. I don't have the engineering expertise to calculate such a thing, but ABS bought off on those boats, so one must assume that it can be done. PC-5 has a 20" tube section with one small hatch forward to pull batteries through (an enormous pain in the butt, according to the guys who worked on it). The nektons have an aluminum box top, o-ring sealed that screws down to the projecting edges of the steel box keel, which exposes the eight batteries from one end to the other (harder to build but easier to maintain).

 

What do you think, Carsten? A 1.2m X 30 cm X 30 cm box in the Eurosub? Or a 50 cm OD tube section? Now that KSS has been out to work, do you think it is necessary, or does she have enough power already?

 

Vance

-----Original Message-----
From: MerlinSub@t-online.de
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2009 4:10 am
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reserve buoyancy

Rootssub?
 
Make one central Pod under the pressure hull. 
If it flood it increase the MG stability 
and maybe partly compensate the FSEffect.. 
 
vbr Carsten 
 
<vbra676539@aol.com> schrieb:
> 
> Can't argue with that.
> 
> So, what do I call the first Eurosub built in the US? Immigrantsub?
> 
> Vance
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MerlinSub@t-online.de
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Sent: Sat, Dec 5, 2009 5:52 pm
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Reserve buoyancy
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> 
> Boats designed without pods have not such problems.. ;-)
> vbr carsten
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