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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ribs



Brian,

I would recommend having the flange pieces of the "T" stiffeners rolled if they are 1/4" thick to get a uniform radius.  Yes, my hull is 30 inch and the ID of my hatch is 21.5" .  As to the inner stiffener being changed from 10 inches to 12 inches without impacting the ultimate depth rating, this has to do with which failure mode is giving the minimum allowable working pressure. The ABS calculation for stiffened cylindrical sections has five different minimum allowable working pressure valves, each of these corresponding to a different failure mode.  For your design case, this means your inner stiffener spacing is changing the MAWP for one or more of the failure modes, but not the failure mode that is giving the minimum MAWP for your design case.  BTW, make sure you are changing the number of circumferential lobes for failure (line 27).  When you change this value from 2 to 3 to 4 ..., you will see that one of the MAWP will start out with a large value then get smaller than larger and larger.  Pick the value that gives the lowest MAWP for this section of the spreadsheet.

 

Cliff






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From: Brian Cox <ojaivalleybeefarm@dslextreme.com>
To: "Personal_Submersibles@Psubs. Org" <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 6:23:54 PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Ribs

Hi All,  I think a number of people could answer these questions, but I've
been fooling around with the hull calculator and thinking about how I'm
going to do my ribs.  I didn't see any difference beween a 10" spacing and a
12" spacing as far as the ultimate depth rating, I guess maybe it is so
close that it was not a factor.  But the one question I had was, once those
strips are cut out for the small diameter of the T ,  assuming they are
1/4", is it nessesary to roll them or are they flexible enough to tac and
bend into place?  Obviously they would need to be welded up first before
fitting them into place.  Sorry for this repeat question !

Cliff, your hull is a 30" dia correct?  What is the id dia of your hatch ?

Brian





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