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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] elliptical heads/ Git Kraken



Frank,
I got a chance to look at pictures of your project. From a pressure vessel perspective what you actually have is a cylinder with two elliptical heads. The best place for the stiffeners is in the cylinder section.  The elliptical heads are meant to compress in a uniform manner.  Stiffeners in the heads will create hardspots/stress points and actually reduce your dive depth. If you want greater depth capability then you need thicker heads. Your main limiting factor right now will probably be your viewports.  The flanges look under sized for the amount of metal surface area removed from the pressure hull. To determine a safe dive depth I would have an engineer with pressure vessel experience look at it for you.
Dan Lance
 
 
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In a message dated 10/25/2009 4:34:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lanceind@earthlink.net writes:
Frank,
Before you commit to a radial pattern of "like ribs on a pumpkin" inside the heads. I think you should get a second opinion engineering wise. Maybe even have an FEA done.
Dan Lance
 
Hi Dan. I haven't committed to any stiffener design yet except for the ribbing across the floor. I need that to provide attachment points for the stuff, contain and attach the ballast bricks, and give me a flat surface for the floor plates.
At this point I'm favoring the "pumpkin" ribs only because I can visualize it easily and it looks pretty easy to do. The hatch ring sticks down into the sub 4 inches and the pumpkin ribs would go from there down the sides and connect with the bottom grid. I was planning on using 1/2 inch plate cut into the curved pieces and tying them all together with round stock rather than making "T" bars.
8 ribs with a little extra at the window area seems like it would do the job.
I respect your knowledge in this area and would appreciate any advice you might offer on an alternative design.
At some point I'll have to do a real FEA on it, ( actually, I'll have to get some one else to do it ) so for now I haven't decided what exactly to do with the ribs.
In the mean time I can get it wet and do shallow dives until either I get a bit smarter or my engineer buddy
becomes available to do it.
I've made all the interior stuff just bolt on and when the time comes to put the final ribbing in, I won't have to torch out anything.
Got any good ideas on it ? I'm willing to listen.
Frank D.