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    Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:20 
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    Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hello; Design; 
    Materials; Thanks
 
    
    
    Dear 
    Sirs;
    
    First, 
    let me say hello and thank you in advance for your 
time. 
    
    I’m 
    considering building a submersible with the following 
    characteristics.
    
    L: 
    25’
    B: 
    6.5’
    D: 
    2.5 - 4’
    
    Operational 
    depth 30’ – 50’
    Brief 
    dives to 60’
    
    
    The 
    vessel will conduct itself primarily in semi-submerged/ low-profile 
    condition (aside from the conning tower stacks etc.), showing full freeboard 
    only in harbor, or as dictated by necessity.  At the desire of the 
    operator, the vessel can make brief, excursion dives up to the 
    aforementioned depths. 
    
    The 
    exact depths are yet undecided. 
    
    In 
    other words, I’m looking to build a David-boat/Monitor type vessel capable 
    of excursions to a designed depth, mostly 1.5 to 3 atmospheres with extended 
    submerged endurance.  Early-early WWI submersibles were treated (and 
    designed) as surface-craft with limited submersible capability.  I 
    would like to mimic this design concept. 
    
    The 
    nature of these requirements clearly points to a dry-ambient submersible but 
    I wish avoid the dry-ambient for the reasons of decompression.  Even at 
    thirty feet, there are no-decomp limits, and I would like to avoid these 
    issues if possible.  Although I’ve considered limiting dive depths to 
    20’, in which case ambient would make sense.
    
    
    Materials:
    
    Some 
    pre/post-Victorian vessels were made of thick wooden planks, metal 
    sheathing, riveted construction, and included deadlights and scuttle-glass 
    portholes.  Many of these vessels were capable of greater depths than I 
    am now proposing.  What are some today’s hull materials that could give 
    me the same performance more cheaply?
    
    Why 
    not consider steel/fiber/carbon/etc. reinforced plastics, or wood, given the 
    limited design parameters. Indeed 60 psig is large, but it seems a trifle to 
    many of today’s resources.  Far older and more poorly designed 
    submersibles dropped past 70’ with materials of lesser quality – and lived 
    to tell the tale. 
    
    Would 
    it be folly to sink 5’ in a hull made of 3” wood? What about10 feet? or 25? 
    At what depth does wood betray you to the abyss?
    
    What 
    about 5/16” steel? Would I  be called an engineering marvel for using 
    5/16” in a vessel designed to dive 5’ feet? 
    
    Personally, 
    I suspect that most industrial strength materials will bring you safely back 
    from a depth of  <33’ – even those of mediocre design.  
    Informally, it appears that most shallow water (1.5 – 2 atm) accidents 
    related to through-hull/porthole failure, as well as entanglement and 
    swamped with decks awash.  Hull failure due to pressure buckling 
    appears to be a rare event in shallow waters. I could be wrong, of 
    course. 
    
    Ultimately, 
    I suppose I’m looking for design/hull-materials advice given the operational 
    characteristics I’ve already mentioned. 
    
    Thank 
    you all for you time and I look forward to a response.
    
    TC