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I
would take issue on who is the poorest psubber ! I'm sure I have
everybody beat on that score !
Bian
Alan
and Brent
Great
attitude guys. Instead of acting all superior and condescending you guys are
prepared to recognize this guy is if nothing else committed and resourceful
and disserving of help if he wants it.
It’s good to
see someone being big hearted instead of big noting! It really takes a big man
to ridicule some on like this with no right of reply doesn’t it! I hope the
fact he is Chinese is not part of the reason he is being ridiculed by some
here.
Get it done
guys!
Regards
John
PS the tri
nations is not over yet!
From:
owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Alan
James
Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2009 3:40 PM
To:
personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Chinese
home-built sub makes the water
I'm behind you on
this one Brent,
I had a search the
other day, trying to track down one of the reporters contact details but
couldn't
Here is a link I
posted earlier showing pics of his rusted out valves etc.(scroll
down)
It wouldn't take
much to send him some new valves, or whatever.
This would be a
great thing to do as a group.
I'm probably the
poorest psubber here, but I'll throw some money in if others
are willing to get
behind it.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Monday,
September 07, 2009 9:48 PM
Subject: RE:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] Chinese home-built sub makes the
water
I'm not at all
comfortable with Xiangli's design from what I think I might know about
it. I just think there is enough brain power and resources in this
group, that we should be able to figure out how to contact Xiangli and ask
him diplomatically if he would like some input and/or supplies to help
him not hurt himself. Perhaps donate a set of K-250 plans to
him. Perhaps find him one or more sponsors for materials for a
K-250. Perhaps if he is using it as an 1 atm, we can talk him into
changing it into a ambient.
I think I asked
the first time his sub was posted, here if it might be an
ambient. I had at that time also considered modeling a couple of
different oil drums and seeing if I could learn any thing
from doing some FEA runs on them. But I quickly realized that there a
many different designs of drums, with different thicknesses, material types,
and different quality
of materials.
Yep, we don't
know if he has any internal ribbing, if he's using it as a 1 atm.
Regards,
Szybowski
From:
ojaivalleybeefarm@dslextreme.com
To:
personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Chinese
home-built sub makes the water
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 18:17:55
-0700
Maybe
they are a higher grade drum. or maybe he has reinforcing rings that
we don't know about. If most of that space is just for equipment
then his ribs could be larger.
-----Original
Message-----
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
[mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of Gregory
Cotton
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 4:31 PM
To:
personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
Chinese home-built sub makes the water
If I was
going to build one of these ( and I did design on like it when I was about
14) I'd go ambient, which may explain the 30 ft limit he puts on it, no
decompression times!
Greg
On Sun, Sep
6, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Alan James <alanjames@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:
Just did some
homework on "Chinese death trap".
The article
says its 1.6 tonnes & calculating out the displacement of 7 drums
thats about right.
Wich means the
drums must be his pressure hull & not an outer ballast
tank.
He says he can
go to 30ft, but a thick 1.2mm drum has a crush depth of 16ft. If he
reinforced all
the drums half
way that would only give him 33ft. Might be wrong, he might be an ardent
follower of psubs.org.
& have
built it to ABS standards.
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Original Message -----
Sent: Monday,
September 07, 2009 7:21 AM
Subject: Re:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] Chinese home-built sub makes the
water
Looks to
me, like Xiangli has about the same hatch land height as my
original K boat. I've have to ship him some amas.
;}'
" The truth may set you free but first its going to piss you off.
" ~
attributed to Gloria Steinem
Save the Nuts, Collect the whole
set
Sent: Saturday,
September 05, 2009 6:16 AM
Subject:
[PSUBS-MAILIST] Chinese death trap
Here is
another image of the Chinese death trap sub. Looks like he is
working on his TV periscope, the mast seems to be made of a piece of clear
acrylic pipe. Note the red line on the front of the sail, I am
guessing that this is his trim line. As I stated earlier, he is
operating with very little freeboard.
http://www.uniquedaily.com/amateur-inventors-homemade-submarine/
R/Jay
Resepectfully,
Jay K. Jeffries
Andros Is., Bahamas
Save the whales, collect
the whole set.
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