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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Chinese home-built sub makes the water



I'm behind you on this one Brent,
I had a search the other day, trying to track down one of the reporters contact details but couldn't
find them.
Here is a link I posted earlier showing pics of his rusted out valves etc.(scroll down)
http://dfilter.livejournal.com/602808.html
It wouldn't take much to send him some new valves, or whatever.
This would be a great thing to do as a group.
I'm probably the poorest psubber here, but I'll throw some money in if others
are willing to get behind it.
Alan
 
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Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 9:48 PM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Chinese home-built sub makes the water



I'm not at all comfortable with Xiangli's design from what I think I might know about it.  I just think there is enough brain power and resources in this group, that we should be able to figure out how to contact Xiangli and ask him diplomatically if he would like some input and/or supplies to help him not hurt himself.  Perhaps donate a set of K-250 plans to him.  Perhaps find him one or more sponsors for materials for a K-250.  Perhaps if he is using it as an 1 atm, we can talk him into changing it into a ambient.
 
I think I asked the first time his sub was posted, here if it might be an ambient.  I had at that time also considered modeling a couple of different oil drums and seeing if I could learn any thing from doing some FEA runs on them. But I quickly realized that there a many different designs of drums, with different thicknesses, material types, and different quality of materials. 
 
Yep, we don't know if he has any internal ribbing, if he's using it as a 1 atm. 

Regards,

Szybowski



 

From: ojaivalleybeefarm@dslextreme.com
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Chinese home-built sub makes the water
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 18:17:55 -0700

Maybe they are a higher grade drum.  or maybe he has reinforcing rings that we don't know about.  If most of that space is just for equipment then his ribs could be larger.  
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From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of Gregory Cotton
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 4:31 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Chinese home-built sub makes the water

If I was going to build one of these ( and I did design on like it when I was about 14) I'd go ambient, which may explain the 30 ft limit he puts on it, no decompression times!

Greg

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Alan James <alanjames@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Brent,
Just did some homework on "Chinese death trap".
The article says its 1.6 tonnes & calculating out the displacement of 7 drums thats about right.
Wich means the drums must be his pressure hull & not an outer ballast tank.
He says he can go to 30ft, but a thick 1.2mm drum has a crush depth of 16ft. If he reinforced all
the drums half way that would only give him 33ft. Might be wrong, he might be an ardent follower of psubs.org.
& have built it to ABS standards.
Alan.
 
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Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Chinese home-built sub makes the water

Looks to me, like Xiangli has about the same hatch land height as my original K boat.  I've have to ship him some amas. ;}'
 
 

          
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Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:16 AM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Chinese death trap

Here is another image of the Chinese death trap sub.  Looks like he is working on his TV periscope, the mast seems to be made of a piece of clear acrylic pipe.  Note the red line on the front of the sail, I am guessing that this is his trim line.  As I stated earlier, he is operating with very little freeboard.
 
http://www.uniquedaily.com/amateur-inventors-homemade-submarine/
 
R/Jay
 
 
Resepectfully,
Jay K. Jeffries
Andros Is., Bahamas
 
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