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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] No Machining Hatch Sealing Concept



Frank,  Good description,

While I acknowledge that many O’ring manuals have differing dimensions I put some things such as bottom radius as nice to have but the squeeze, surface finish, clearance and breaking of edges as necessary.  As you say it is a simple design that works well.  Parker does a good manual.  Chs Hugh

 

From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of ShellyDalg@aol.com
Sent: 06 September 2009 04:24
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] No Machining Hatch Sealing Concept

 

Hi Brent. The groove for an "O" ring is quite a bit wider than the "O" ring itself, leaving a space inside the groove for water to get into. The "taper" in the groove is on the inside face and it's only a tiny bit, under 5 degrees out of plumb. The bottom corners of the groove are supposed to be rounded slightly. The Parker "O" ring "design book" explains the function and has charts for sizes and many different types of applications depending on what the "O" ring is trying to accomplish. There's quite a few different types of groove shapes with some designs based on a rotating shaft, sliding shaft, and a bunch of other applications. The common function of all of them is to apply pressure against the rubber and force it into a TINY crack.

The "O" ring gets pushed up against the inside groove wall  as the water pressure is applied. The "O" ring doesn't really deform into a slightly rectangular shape until the pressure builds up enough to squash the hatch down.

The groove needs to be wide enough to accommodate the "squared" "O" ring and still leave enough space for the water to get in there so the water is applying pressure to the "O" ring, forcing it up against the crack between the two metal surfaces. It's a real simple design and can withstand a LOT of pressure.

Your rendering shows the taper on the outside groove wall and the rubber "O" ring is filling the groove. That won't seal because there's no where for the water to get in there so it's actually acting like a flat gasket.

The water would slip under the squared "O" ring because the pressure is being applied to the gap and not "behind" the "O" ring.

Frank D.

 

                                                      

                                                               

 




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