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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Building a Personal Submersible

Maybe Jon could ruminate on this some and figure a way to categorize useful stuff. But then, who chooses what?
Vance


-----Original Message-----
From: Alan James <alanjames@xtra.co.nz>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Sun, 31 May 2009 6:37 pm
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Building a Personal Submersible

Hi Vance,
I'm not meaning that the emails we are sending are garbage, as I've contributed to a few.
But because I'm not so far down the track, I've had to spend a fare bit of time doing word searches
in the archives of our emails to find information, and these contain everything including your email
and mine wich will come up in a search on "building a personal submersible" but won't be of help to anyone (garbage).
I'm agreeing with Alan who suggested a psub group book and provided subject headings.
I photocopy a lot of the good emails and file them under subject headings, I even have some of yours
on welding. If we could have some sort of online book with the best emails,  white papers and links it would
go a long way to helping people in the future. I don't know exactly how this would work or could work but think it's
worth discussing. Just recently Jon put through a good technical email on condensation in subs wich was as good
as a white paper but in the future could be difficult for someone to find. If this was nominated to go in an online book
it would be easily accessed later on.
Any thoughts on the merit of the book idea?
regards Alan
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: vbra676539@aol.com
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Building a Personal Submersible< /div>

Alan,

Pardon me if I quote: The purpose of this sight is to help people to build submarines safely and I think your suggestion would take things to the level we need to be at.

Who's to say where we need to be at (and who grades this stuff for grammar, anyway?)? Sifting through the "garbage" as you call it should tell you something more about the site, which is ABOUT personal submersibles and INCLUDES information on building same, but isn't restricted to one or the other. You want white papers? Write one. We'll be happy and interested to see it.

Meanwhile, I'll sift throught the garbage and add to it from time to time. And I'm working on a couple of white papers right now, one on pneumatic MBT valves, one on converting trolling motors for deeper service, and a third on a home made scrubber. I hope one day they will provide you with some how-to information. If not, just toss 'em in the trash.

Vance



-----Original Message-----
From: Alan James <alanjames@xtra.co.nz>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:58 pm
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Building a Personal Submersible

Hi Alan,
Yes manned submersibles is a great introduction but as you've said, something more specific and relevant needs writing. Over the last 10 months I've done several searches on the psub sight and you can really get bogged down sifting through a lot of garbage looking for that gem o f information thats hidden there. And this process will only get worse as our daily emails are added to this pool. Also as Jon stated we need white papers so that new people can go to them rather than other forums and have people answer the same questions over and over. I had suggested that the emails are vetted and removed from the search pool=2 0so its not clogged up with stuff like this email wich has no relevance to anyone wanting to build a sub.
The purpose of this sight is to help people to build submarines safely and I think your suggestion would take things to the level we need to be at.
regards Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Clifford
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:28 AM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Building a Personal Submersible

“Manned submersibles” is an interesting book but much of the information doesn’t apply to personal submersibles and all of it is dated.  I’ve written about six pages in which every topic (I think) is at least mentioned.  This is only about 20% of the whole book and it still needs to be organize d into chapters but if everyone who has built a personal submersible reads it and adds a bit, it would be a decent guide that would not be available anywhere else.  You could then add it to your website and either charge for it or give it away as you choose.  Please note that much of the information is my best guess rather than an informed opinion.  I’ve attached a very rough draft of the book.
 
            Alan
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