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Greetings Carsten, You know you can't count your hours playing Silent Hunter video games while sitting in your subs bridge, towards the 10,000 hours, right ? 1000 hours or less = Hobbyist 10,000 hours or more = Obsessed Submadman ;) I'm currently on hour number 138 on my K-250 refit, so 862 more hours to go, unless I decide to add 20 meters to its length. Idaho Redneck SMMOM Tip of the Day Don't copper slag blast a yellow submarine in the rain, or you will wind up looking like a coal miner dusted with pollen. In Idaho, just because it's clear and sunny now, doesn't mean it will be in ten minutes. Cheers, Szybowski > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Cost and Time to Build > From: MerlinSub@t-online.de > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:59:00 +0000 > > Alan you need more than 1000 hours.. and about 20K. > > Less material cost means more hours. > More material cost for the SAME sub means less hours. > > Sample : > You purchase a ready to play dome: high cost but less hours > You made the dome yourself : less material cost but many hours. > > Another item is what kind of workshops and tools you have. > More workshop and better tools lower your hours and material costs.. > > You need at least a good grinder, much better two, a small and a big drilling machine, a good welder > and a garage. A plasma cutter helps also a lot. If you miss one of this items you have to put it one the money list for the project. And two 2-3 overalls, 10-15 pair of hand gloves and, and.. > > My figures shows that you have to add to the material cost about 4-5% for tools and about 9% for other cost (like transport, repair the welder etc..)and it takes you 1-2 hours a week just to clean up.. > > If you work each weekend 16 hours on the sub and that maybe > 40 weeks a year you can spend just 600-700 hours per year and you need one and a half year. > I build Peppers in a year, a small one man single seater. But Emile spent another year to refit > and upgrade it. > > Make a exel sheet with all figures helps a lot. And dont worry about the high figures. > Just start- if you finish it you will forget all the hard money and hours very fast > - and a good build and maintance sub can stay very very long. > My one mann is twenty years old now and still operational. > > So divided the > 1000 hours to build by a operational time of > 30 years and you get just 33 hours a year to get a sub. > > I think I have much over 10.000 hours on Euronaut now.. > > vbr Carsten > > > > "Alan Clifford" <Alan@nortruck.com> schrieb: > > Assuming I do most of the work, will $16K buy the materials for a dry, > > one atmosphere, two person submersible with a trailer? > > > > > > > > Does it take 200, 300, or 400 hours to build one? > > > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************************ > ************************************************************************ > ************************************************************************ > The personal submersibles mailing list complies with the US Federal > CAN-SPAM Act of 2003. Your email address appears in our database > because either you, or someone you know, requested you receive messages > from our organization. > > If you want to be removed from this mailing list simply click on the > link below or send a blank email message to: > removeme-personal_submersibles@psubs.org > > Removal of your email address from this mailing list occurs by an > automated process and should be complete within five minutes of > our server receiving your request. > > PSUBS.ORG > PO Box 53 > Weare, NH 03281 > 603-529-1100 > ************************************************************************ > ************************************************************************ > ************************************************************************ > |