I had been thinking that lifting and lowering the sub some how would be a good alternative. So what are those rings and the vertical heavy duty hydraulic rams for? Szybowski To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] STANAG NATO standard flange Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:01:21 -0500 From: vbra676539@aol.com No idea. Possibly Mike Stahle, who bought all the Perry manned sub stuff. There was no bellows on this particular unit. That was way too expensive. What we did instead was man the big wrenches and crank screw jacks built into the trolley, adjusting the sub itself for a mate. That way you could leave them high for normal ops, which let the sub move in and out over the trunk without interference. Vance -----Original Message----- From: Brent Hartwig <brenthartwig@hotmail.com> To: PSUBSorg <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> Sent: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 3:11 pm Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] STANAG NATO standard flange Vance, I would of loved to of been there. It looks like the thru-deck trunk can go up and down, so there must be a pressure proof expandable sleeve of some sort? I'm thinking the outer part of it includes those rings in the lower area? I would love to see the drawing of that assembly. Who might have those? Szybowski To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] STANAG NATO standard flange Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:24:21 -0500 From: vbra676539@aol.com That's the thru-deck trunk on the old Sea Diver, nee Intersub 2. It was purpose built for one sub (PC1202/DLO) and had a stand-up dual chamber sat system under the decks and a quarter million cubic feet of gas in rocket bottles. Later, we used two larger ships for DLS services with the same sort of underdeck (Perry-built) system and two submarines each (usually a PC-18 and a PC-12). It was quite an operation. I was actually there the day the Nick shot those pictures, but only made it to the cutting room floor, I'm afraid. The photo was taken in a Bremerhaven shipyard, near Carsten's neck of the woods. I was just to Nick's left (starboard side) in the mechanic's shop, getting gear together for 1202, which I'd helped build at Perry (that's it in the background). Vance -----Original Message----- From: Brent Hartwig <brenthartwig@hotmail.com> To: PSUBSorg <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> Sent: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:31 am Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] STANAG NATO standard flange Jay, The clamping device in the picture linked below on a Intersub support ship looks like it might be the type your talking about. I suspect Vance has used that one. Regards, Szybowski From: bottomgun@mindspring.com To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] STANAG NATO standard flange Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:24:36 -0500 Brent,
The two-part coupling flange is common in the oil patch for mating diving bells with decompression facilities for crew transfer. The small portable chambers depicted in the DART brochure are used by US Navy diving detachments during remote ops.
R/Jay
Respectfully,
Jay K. Jeffries
Andros Is., Bahamas
As scarce as the truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.
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From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of Brent Hartwig
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:13 PM To: PSUBSorg Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] STANAG NATO standard flange I found this set of decompression units from a manufacturer in the Netherlands, that are using the STANAG NATO standard flange. The main unit has a interesting pressure hull design. It looks like they are using a different locking means for there add on unit, in a clam shell arrangement. I'll need a at least two STANAG flanges on my live aboard sub. "Success didn't spoil me, I've always been insufferable." ~ Fran Lebowitz
Regards, Szybowski > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] NATO standard flange > From: MerlinSub@t-online.de > To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:53:00 +0000 > > > http://www.simsi.org/Soci/Documenti/AQA00311.pdf > > Page 25ff. vbr Carsten > > > "Sean T. Stevenson" <cast55@telus.net> schrieb: >> Based on a brief internet search, I understand that there is a NATO >> standard arrangement for the interconnection of hyperbaric transport >> chambers, personnel transfer capsules and similar arrangements designed >> for transfer under pressure. A number of hyperbaric system >> manufacturers quote inclusion of this flange in their literature, but I >> am having difficulty sourcing the actual description. Does anyone know >> where details about this NATO standard bayonet flange can be found? >> >> >> -Sean >> |