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I looked again closely at the two pictures in George's book that show a tangle guard much like mine on a K-350. But can't make out how they were connected to the tube section of the hull. Both used inch square tubing like mine. The ones in the book had knee braces on them, so you could stand on them I presume. Szybowski To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Tangle Guard Removel on K-250 #118 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:07:11 -0500 From: vbra676539@aol.com No, it was a very plain K-250 that George rebuilt with a new conning tower, pods and motors to turn into a K-350. By the time all that was done, the owner figured he had spent quite enough money, thank you very much. Vance -----Original Message----- From: Brent Hartwig <brenthartwig@hotmail.com> To: PSUBSorg <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> Sent: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:45 am Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Tangle Guard Removel on K-250 #118 The tangle guard that was on my K-250 does look very much like the one in a picture of a K-350 in George's book. But the way mine was attached to the side and the way the conning tower guard was attach with the welded on plate with a square peg protruding from it, looked a lot different. I'll have to look at some more pictures and subs. Did your sub have a tangle guard that was attached like mine? Szybowski To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Tangle Guard Removel on K-250 #118 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:24:19 -0500 From: vbra676539@aol.com I don't know, Brent. That looks an awful lot like the stuff in George's pics from the factory. Either he did it, or maybe he built it and they installed it. Why on earth anyone would use square tubing I can't imagine. Time to upgrade. Vance -----Original Message----- From: Brent Hartwig <brenthartwig@hotmail.com> To: PSUBSorg <personal_submersibles@psubs.org> Sent: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 6:54 pm Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Tangle Guard Removel on K-250 #118 The tangle guard on my K-250 was mostly made out of inch square mild steel tubing. They didn't cap the ends and so it rusted fast. You can see in one picture were the rust even split the tubing. They welded on the front area of the tangle guard, so I had to cut it off. They also attached the guard in the sides in such a way that I had to cut off one side at the back, to remove the guard. So I would say this is a good example of how not to attach a tangle guard. I have reason to believe this tangle guard and the upper conning tower guard were added by the owners and not by George and his crew. I'm currently planning to replace these guards with 2" sch. 40 aluminum tubing, like Vance suggested some time back. They will be formed and mounted much like the towers on ski boats are done. Then the whole assembly will be blasted and coated with a Rhino type coating. This way the guards will be some what protected, and they won't be so cold or hot to the touch when you need to grab onto them, and they won't be hard to hang onto. http://cid-5085d10eb6afe47c.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Tangle%20Guard%20Removel?uc=1 Regards, Szybowski = |