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 Brent, 
  
You 
forgot to add the disclaimer of the author..."Now I'm not an expert on 
airliners, but I am happy to expose my ignorance (best way to learn!) and so 
here, for those interested, is my answer:"  
  
I wouldn't 
say he's ignorant, but he certainly does not understand the purpose of 
flaps.  While it is all very interesting of course regarding airplanes, 
none of it applies to submersibles even in the context of "speed brakes".  
Your original message with the subject title "Stopping Flaps" was a misnomer 
since nobody is really talking about installing "flaps" as they appear on 
airplanes.  Whether anyone successfully installs "speed brakes" on a small 
sub is another matter, but it is a more accurate term for what has been under 
discussion and will help prevent a debate on airplane flaps which has no 
relevance on this list. 
  
Thanks, 
Jon 
  
  
  
  "The purpose of flaps is to enable the 
  aircraft to fly more slowly without stalling. Deploying flaps increases 
  both lift and drag. Use of flaps when landing thus enables a steeper approach 
  path, better visibility over the nose and a slower touch-down speed. The 
  slower the touch-down speed (perhaps 120~160kts for an airliner, or around 
  60~70kts for the smaller aircraft I fly), then the less braking and runway 
  length are required to complete the landing roll before safely exiting the 
  runway at taxi speed. Generally speaking, full-flap will be used for landing 
  as this provides maximum benefit in terms of reduced landing speed and extra 
  drag during the landing roll. (Flaps are also commonly used for take-off in 
  order to decrease the speed at which the wing starts to provide lift - but 
  only partial flap is used for take-off to avoid having too much drag whilst 
  trying to accelerate to take-off speed). A simple definition of aircraft flaps 
  is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flap_(aircraft)
  The purpose of 
  spoilers is to decrease lift, while the purpose of air-brakes is to increase 
  drag without altering lift. Sometimes the two effects are combined. One of the 
  most difficult things to do in an aircraft is to "go down and slow down" at 
  the same time - spoilers and air-brakes help with this. In flight, air-brakes 
  are used in the approach phase to slow the aircraft down (it is common for 
  example to have speed restrictions in busy terminal control areas e.g. below 
  250kts when 30 miles out say, or max holding speed of 180kts below 10,000 feet 
  perhaps). The second use of air-brakes/spoilers is provide additional drag and 
  dump any residual lift during the landing roll, as you have noticed. See 
  simple definition here: 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_brake_(aircraft).
  When landing an 
  airliner, they need to combine the effects of flap (primarily to reduce 
  touch-down speed, secondarily to add some drag) with the effects of 
  spoilers/air-brakes (primarily to add drag, secondarily to dump lift once 
  safely on the ground) as well as reverse thrust, and wheel braking. The 
  shorter the runway / heavier the aircraft / faster the touchdown then the more 
  of these forces will be required at once.
  Confusion here seems to stem 
  from the idea that flaps add lift, but during the landing roll we don't want 
  any more lift: the answer to this is that once the aircraft has touched down, 
  it is quickly decelerated (by combined effects of drag, reverse thrust and 
  wheel brakes) to less than the the stall-speed of the fully-flapped wing; 
  therefore the wing (by definition) is no longer producing enough lift to be 
  able to fly. Airline pilots have to calculate in advance a target touch-down 
  speed to be just above the stall speed as they reach the landing threshold - 
  for a given aircraft, this speed will vary considerably depending on the 
  weight (load, fuel, etc), runway length, surface type (e.g. grass has less 
  friction than tarmac) and external conditions (headwind, crosswind, gusts, 
  windshear, runway condition e.g. wet/dry etc).
  Landing small aircraft 
  is far simpler of course, but we still have to make take-off and landing 
  performance calculations - see GASCO (General Aviation Safety Council) article 
  here on this: 
  http://www.gasco.org.uk/upload/docs/2005_1_Flight%20Safety16-18.pdf.
  Regarding 
  landing without flaps: this is something that we practice because we have to 
  be prepared for situations where e.g. the flaps malfunction for some reason. 
  When landing without flaps, you have to make a flatter approach, you have less 
  forward visibility over the nose therefore, and you touchdown say 10kts faster 
  - which significantly increases the landing run (i.e. runway length required); 
  which is as you would expect given the explanatiom above 
  perhaps!"
  http://hardyboysblog.blogspot.com/2005/07/why-do-we-use-flaps-when-landing.html
 
  
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