Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] New web site

Thanks for the reply and I think you make an excellent point on the importance of the testing phase of the project, specifically the need for a testing plan. Once PD3 is ready to get wet it will go through a number of stages of test before its lowered into open water. With a bit of warm weather over here I hope to get my above ground pool up in the next month and do initial component tests on the ballast tanks and canopy. The next step after that will be pool tests on the whole thing to sort the ballast/stability issues.

On 7/22/08, irox <irox@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Hi,

I kind of see where people are coming from in this thread, but...

If safety is the main goal, let's ban private psubs that are not
built to ABS or whatever.  If promoting personal submarines is
the main goal, let's not ban private subs.  Safety is a pillar
that let's us achieve our goals of personal submarine ownership,
the stronger that pillar, the more we can do.

Simon, yes your project has worth, regardless of psubs, Jon,
anybody else.  Even if aspects of your project are untried/untested,
it's still worth.  While, the content of what people write about is
is important, they shouldn't have to censor themselves if they are
concerned publishing information that cause problems or legislation
for other psubbers.  In fact, if anybody thinks they have some
"unsafe" ideas, the talk/writing about phase is a great places to
get it out of your system.  You can also build those ideas, then
with a well designed test plan, make sure you full understand the
operational parameters of your design (normally be destroying
several of them and making sure they fail in consistent ways).

Knowledge and understanding are two other important pillars of subs.
With knowledge and a good understanding of that knowledge I can
design things that others are not and plan a way to test it to
prove it works the way I designed.  With just knowledge (say a
set of K350 plans and machining skills) you can build a safe sub
with understanding exactly how steal behaves as a pressure boundary.

Submarines are my goal - Safety, knowledge and understanding
are pillars which support my goal.  Submarines are heavy, the
pillars need to be sturdy.

Now I'm rambling...  sorry, my point was encourage all to post
their ideas (please search the archives first and read what was
said about it in the past)

Cheers,
Ian.
P.s.:  Normally it's cheaper to talk about bad ideas than do them.