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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Newbie



Don,
 
The "Hull Calculator" can be found as follows:
Go to www.psubs.org
Click on "Design and Fabrication"
Click on "Design Tools"
Click on "Calculators"
 
Information regarding regulations in the USA and how they affect you are available as follows:
Go to www.psubs.org
Click on "Design and Fabrication"
Click on "Standards/Guidelines"
 
 
The hull calculator is not in the ABS documents, but was derived from the information located within them.  The formulas were taken from the documents and written into a spreadsheet format to help people understand the capabilities of their design.
 
In regards to regulations and requirements for regulating entities, building a sub for personal use will be nothing like your requirements for Langley.  ABS/ASME certification is required only if you are building a submersible to carry passengers for hire.  If you are building a submersible for recreational use, the US Govt doesn't care whether you use cardboard for the hull, or 3 inch tungsten carbide.  If you want to build it according to ABS standards, the US Govt doesn't care.  If you want to "wing-it" and just dream up your own standards, the US Govt doesn't care.  Once you cross the boundary of recreational use and carry a passenger for hire (federal law defines this...see the link above), now the US Govt cares what materials you used, your construction methods, your components, and your piloting skills.
 
PSUBS.ORG on the other hand, always cares about how subs are built and operated, even recreational ones.  It is our official and stated policy that submersibles should always be built to ABS/ASME standards.  We understand the cost for certification is usually well above what a home-builder can afford, and therefore do not insist on such certification.  But we do recommend you build to the ABS/ASME standards whether using an existing design or making your own design.
 
When it comes to operation of your sub, in general, in the US, the Coast Guard rules the coastline and inland waterways.  They have different rules as well depending upon the size of your vessel and it's intended use.  Since the vast majority of submersibles we see built are 16 feet or smaller, and used for recreational purposes, your sub is a simple boat in the eyes of the Coast Guard.  I need to add their rules to the "standards/guidelines" link, but for now you can view them at 2008 Convention headquarters at http://www.psubs.org/convention/2008 and then clicking on "Dive Operations".
 
One last thing, US Federal Law allows states to come up with their own additional (or strictor) rules.  We are not aware of any states that have rules or regulations regarding submersibles, but you should check with your own state government to be sure.
 
I hope that helps.
 
Jon