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 Ah.... 
I think I have found a Use for the Stainless Beer Kegs lying around outside of 
most Pubs of a morning...! 
50L, 
50BAR test Pressure. Oh you can buy them too... 
  
On 
another note, I am still working my design thru but I may have secured a HUGE 
check Valve from a Power station, 1.1m (4feet) or 1.7m Diam. Hardened 
steel built for Steam 1000psi... The shape looks very 'Submarine' 
like... 
  
Anyone 
used something like this...? Stronger by far than a Gas 
Tank. 
  
  
  
  
  
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  One of the new 
  translucent composite propane tanks for forklifts work well. See thru, 300 psi 
  working pressure, with three threaded ports. Less than $200 on the web. 
  -Greg 
    
    
    
    
  -----Original 
  Message----- From: 
  owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org 
  [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org] On Behalf Of 
  ShellyDalg@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:41 
  PM To: 
  personal_submersibles@psubs.org Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 
  VBT 
    
  
  Hi Ray. 
  I imagine piloting through "total blackness" with no instruments is nerve 
  wracking. I'm looking forward to seeing the little piezo electric sonar device 
  at this years convention that David's been designing. Should have some real 
  benefit during those times when visibility is nil.  
  
  On 
  VBT's..... how do we size that tank? My sub will weigh around 6700 lbs on 
  land. With room for two people, but often with just me inside. I wouldn't have 
  a problem with loading/unloading some lead ballast but I still want a VBT for 
  small adjustments. Is there a rule-of-thumb on a percentage basis or something 
  that is accepted as the norm? Needless to say, room inside is a concern for a 
  hardened tank, which will take up considerably more space than just it's 
  internal volume. I was thinking something like an extra aluminum scuba tank 
  would be enough, and would tuck neatly into an area near the bottom. If 
  something much larger is needed, then the best option seems to locate it 
  outside. That means extra plumbing and more drag when 
  moving.   
  
  Another 
  question, how do the guys know how much water is inside it? I was thinking 
  that with the tank inside, I could fab a spring loaded sling for it, and 
  approximate it's weight with a dial indicator on it's total weight. ( I'm 
  trying to keep all the systems as " electronic free " as possible. ) I suppose 
  a sight glass would be possible, but I'm just not that comfortable with that 
  idea. The sling would only have to have an inch or two of travel, 
  and could be calibrated fairly closely to indicate the water volume in there. 
  First though, gotta know how big it needs to be. Any thoughts on this ? Frank 
  D.  
  
 
  
    
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