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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Paint



Hi James,
 
If you are going to do the hull much later, I think you are on the right track.
 
Just use a cheaper fast dry primer to keep the rust pitting at bay and blast it off when the time arrives for final painting.
 
In immersion environments especially cold water and with some flex because of the depth it is extremely difficult to get good adhesion without sandblasting.
 
Just storing items on a shelf will not pose these problems however.
 
Sincerely,
 
 
Jim Kocourek
Kocourek Industrial Painting
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:55 PM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Paint

Hi Carsten/Jim.
 
I am intending to sandblast the entire hull before final painting.  But as this may be some time away, I was just going to paint the installed viewports only at this stage, to stop them rusting as i have only just made them.  Is this pointless if i will need to blast them anyway? 
 
Shall i just leave them and blast them eventually with the rest of the hull?
 
I thought that they would be ok if painted now, but from your messages, it sounds like the ports need to be blasted as well for paint adhesion?
 
Im sorry if i sound like an amateur but i am just working this all out as i go along and there is nobody else to ask.
 
Many thanks
James
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hydrodynamic Hatch Viewport Arrangement

That is what I will do..

Washing with soapwater than Sandblasting SAE 2,5 than
Relius Oldopox Haftgrund ZHG, 321-0071 grau   30 um (Zink primer grey)
Relius Oldopox ARC, 325-9105 schwarz 125 um  (black)
Relius Oldopox ARC 325-3109 rotbraun 125 um (redbrown)
Relius Oldopox Sealer, 354-3170 grau 50 um       (grey)
Relius Topcoat (deck) or antifouling (hull) in blue

Washing is most important - otherwhise the sandblast
push the smoke and dirt into the steel..

With this proffesional coat it will last
many years without work.

regards Carsten

"Jim Kocourek" <kocpnt@tds.net> schrieb:
> Hi Carsten,
>
> I concur with the zinc-rich epoxy primer as the best choice for the first coat.
>
> A couple of things to keep in mind however.
>
> Be sure of the recoat window before applying. Usually Zinc has a long recoat period, but if this period is exceeded you may have to resandblast.
>
> Any zinc coatings MUST be applied over a SSPC6 Commercial blast finish or better usually with a 1.5 to 2.0 mil profile.
>
> I will be using a zinc rich epoxy primer base coat, followed by a high solids epoxy intermediate coat. I have not decided what I will be using for a topcoat yet.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jim Kocourek
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: James Frankland
>   To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 6:31 AM
>   Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hydrodynamic Hatch Viewport Arrangement
>
>
>   Hi Carsten.
>   Thanks for the info on paint.  I will check it out.
>
>   regards
>   James
>
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: <MerlinSub@t-online.de>
>   > To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>   > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:22 PM
>   > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hydrodynamic Hatch Viewport Arrangement
>   >
>   >
>   > First Layer should a good epoxy zink primer.
>   >
>   > Maybe Oldopox from Relius
>   >
>   > http://www.bast.de/nn_37816/DE/Qualitaetsbewertung/Listen/bruecken-ingenieurbau/pdf/Korrosionschutzsysteme_20nach_20ztv-kor,templateId=raw,property=publicationFile.pdf/Korrosionschutzsysteme%20nach%20ztv-kor.pdf
>   >
>   > regards Carsten
>   >
>   >
>   > "James Frankland" <james@guernseysubmarine.com> schrieb:
>   >> Hi All.
>   >>
>   >> This is a topic that i know has come up before, so i appologise for
>   >> dredging up an old thread.
>   >>
>   >> But, can anyone recommend a good paint primer that i can get here in EU?
>   >> I have nearly finished my tower and i want to get some paint on it,
>   >> particually to protect the new viewports.
>   >>
>   >> Thanks
>   >> James
>   >
>   >
>   >
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