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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] live aboard submarine yacht - affordable
Sorry to say but big motoryachts are my mainjob.
Most owners of megayachts send them across the ocean
with crew only.. and fly when they arrived.
Difficult to build a spacious submarine for somebody
normal living in a house with 20+ rooms..
regards Carsten
<clientes@tolimared.com> schrieb:
> Hello Peter, Carsten, Brent, Brian, Ian,
>
> I like your DIOGENES (greek philosopher living in a barril) approach.
> And i am with you when you say that a person can live in hull of some
> 2m inner diameter (a small trailer has that) - this is sufficient to
> stand up and strech out - which is the basic requirement.
>
> People have crossed oceans in canoes and live rafts but what we seek
> and try to implement with ians 200 ton submarine is oceancrossing as a
> "pleasant yachting experience" not as a "survival experience".
>
> I like peters aproach especially because it shows that "living in a
> submarine" is a experience that can be at least than satisfying as
> living on board of a yacht.
>
> In fact a submarine is the only living space available to have a fine
> dinner and a good night sleep during a storm in open sea. As soon as
> you resolve the space problem you get a "on water living" concept that
> is quite revolutionary. "The oceancrossing submarine yacht".
>
> It was quite revealing to me when i boarded my submarine on a cold
> winter day with minus 20 degrees and found the temperature inside at
> 10 degrees plus (the water temp) - no heating at all - water living
> has its advantages.
>
> The question is how can we make private submarines big enough that a
> average person (and his wife!) would enjoy living on board the whole
> year maybe travelling worldwide.
>
> I think ians boat will be the final answer to that. People will come
> on board and say whow - that is spacier than my new york
> apartment...it is living space in miami, cancun, montecarlo, all
> together - affordable maintainance cost - that makes sense ! Ians boat
> will have 4,6m diameter x 18m.
>
> As soon as this boat is on yachtmens map (and we will put it there)
> big finance and further development will come quickly - counting on
> you submariners to join me in this ... finally i am market development
> manager not engineer...carsten, remember you promised...
>
> Mfg
>
> W.Ellmer
> (concretesubmarine.com)
>
>
> Quoting Brent Hartwig <brenthartwig@hotmail.com>:
>
> >
> > Hello Peter,What type of insulation did you use for the UC-3 ? A
> > number of guys talk about launch dates, but your one of those guys
> > that will likely do it. ; )' Life has a way of getting in the way
> > of one finishing there goals, unless there truly focused and
> > dedicated. You Peter, are very focused and truly dedicated. But I
> > suspect you truly like living in UC-3, so it might no be as much of
> > a sacrifice to you as it would be to some other SMMO's
> >
> > I know all about giving up a supper comfortable place to live to
> > save money for ones goals. When I first started my commercial
> > tropical bird farm. I stayed in my minivan and then later in an
> > large old cold storage room that was once used for storing the fresh
> > eggs when the buildings where used for layer chickens, many years
> > before. That room was the most insulated room in the facility, so
> > at least I could stay warm, but as you would expect there were no
> > windows, and it was hard to bring a date home and hang out in the
> > cooler. In hind sight I should of acquired a lava lamp, and set up
> > my aquariums. ; )'
> >
> > Regards,
> > Brent Hartwig
> >
> >> From: peter@submarines.dk
> >> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 20ton/20meter diesel electric psubs onyoutube.
> >> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:12:04 +0100
> >>
> >> Sir,
> >>
> >> I have for one year now lived on UC-3 during har construction. She is 2
> >> meters diameter and 32 tonnes.
> >> Its very much okay, she is insulated and has a kitchen and a bathroom. Of
> >> cause you need to be a little mad to do so, but it saves me a lot of money
> >> not to have to have other housing during the constution.
> >>
> >> I agree that 6000 nm is extreme for the boat seen on youtube.
> >>
> >> UC-3 is launched by may 2008
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <clientes@tolimared.com>
> >> To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 3:11 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] 20ton/20meter diesel electric psubs onyoutube.
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Ian,
> >>
> >> Whow what a boat! But 6000nm range - not in practice - living space is
> >> 20m long which leaves some 1m hull diameter for a 20 tonner (20 cubic
> >> meter space) - to stay in for a day - well for a claustrofobic prove
> >> charakter - to stay in for a month - or even a weekend - no way! So
> >> too small for being really autonomous...
> >>
> >> My prototype was a 20 tonner but not that long and thinn - euronaut is
> >> 70 tons - planed for weekend tours - a boat with "live aboard quality"
> >> similar to a yacht needs at least 100 tons see BEN FRANKLIN (130 tons).
> >>
> >> By the way your 200 tonner is already aproved by dimar counteradmiral
> >> peña firmed the paper i have a meeting with the boss of cotecmar this
> >> monday - this will decide if we build in cotecmar or navtech.
> >>
> >> W.Ellmer
> >> (www.concretesubmarine.com)
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting irox <irox@ix.netcom.com>:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > 20 meters
> >> > 20 tons
> >> > 260hp diesel/electric drive
> >> > 6000nm range
> >> >
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmSpYzgfOs8
> >> >
> >> > I've not heard of this craft before, does anybody know anything
> >> > about it?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Ian.
> >> >
> >> >
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