Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Hatch fabrication dilemma

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How much angle has it ? 

2) than 1) is maybe the best. Use a oven.. 

regards Carsten 

"Smyth, Alec" <Alec.Smyth@compuware.com> schrieb:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've just run into a good example of the practical differences between
> design and construction. I know there's a bunch of you out there with
> more practical experience than myself, so really look forward to
> suggestions.
> 
> I'm building a hatch which is comprised of a "dished-only" head in 516
> grade 70 and a stainless ring half an inch thick. "Dished-only" means
> the head has no flange, so it meets the SS ring at an acute angle. This
> is similar to a K-350 hatch, though my dimensions are a little
> different.
> 
> The head was beveled from the outside, which allowed me to make a full
> penetration outside TIG weld. I should probably have left it at that.
> But I had an opened box of SS electrodes going to waste, so I decided to
> weld it on the inside as a little extra. Initially I thought it was
> virtually impossible to do that inside weld, because one had to make the
> weld blind. But with the help of a little mirror and by bending the
> electrodes into the right shape, I was actually able to do it. I took
> the inside weld the whole way to the inside edge of the SS ring, which
> is now nicely faired into the head. This inside weld is, due to the
> difficulties of the position, surely full of flaws. But again, it's just
> supposed to be bonus safety margin on top of the high-quality outside
> weld. 
> 
> Now for the problem...
> 
> I expected the inside weld might pull the ring inwards a little, but I
> never expected HOW MUCH it would do so. The half inch SS ring is
> deflecting inwards a quarter inch. My next step was going to be putting
> the hatch on a lathe to true the SS ring surface and cut the O-ring
> groove. There's still enough material to do that. But what worries me is
> that the pull of the inside weld must be putting enormous tension on the
> critical outside weld. This tension is in the same direction as the
> tension that will be produced by water pressure at depth. So instead of
> bracing the outside weld, I have the impression I'm actually adding to
> the tension that will be stressing it when submerged.
> 
> So what do people think should be done about this?
> 
> 1) Nothing, machine it as planned.
> 
> 2) Is possible to relieve the tension with a heat treatment?
> 
> 3) Grind away the whole inside weld? (oh no, please no!!!)
> 
> 4) Use a cutoff wheel between the inside weld and the SS ring to let the
> ring pop flat again, then just fill the gap with an additional weld
> pass?
> 
> 
> I like the idea of #4 because it would relieve the tension while still
> providing the bracing I was after originally. I'd need to be careful
> about the depth of the cut, I don't want to go anywhere near the outside
> TIG weld. But again, I'm just wondering what more experienced builders
> might suggest!
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alec
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