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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Yet another "drug" sub captured./sensors
Hi Carsten Peter,
Yep carsten, this is more or less the level what sensor technology we
are talking about...Just to complete... Hubble space telescope which
is the civilian version of spy satelites can detect the light of a car
in paris from united states - in all kind of wavelenght...radar
satelites can look how much rock dust contains ice cap on mars 3 km
below surface...a colombian admirals smiles about the remote
possibility of a submarine sliping trough sensors - when it is made
out of concrete - not of steel which already was easy to find by early
magnetic sensors...colombian navy makes physiologic studys on whales
that include heart beat and breath data without closing in on
disturbance distance...I can see a chart of blue and gray whale
distribution in bering sea on internet (cortesy of US navy). A us navy
admiral says in history channel - they did not know it, but no soviet
submarine came out of our sensor range at any time in any ocean for a
single day during whole cold war EVER ! - declassified info !!!
As somebody who lives in colombia i also know that there is a treaty
unique of its kind - between colombia and United States that allows
US warships to enter colombian territorial waters with no restriction
to deploy that kind of sensors, - to hunt freely so to say - i find a
submariners cap "USS Boston nuclear submarine" on my beach in Tolu
when having my vacations...
Smugglers are professionals they know that things at least as detailed
as we do.
And they have experience what works and what not.
It is easier to disappear a 25 ton container on a freighter containing
thousands of containers and staying in port for 1 day on a tight
shedule leaving customs with a impossible search task - you have just
to delete a record in the database a secretary will do the favor. -
not to fight against all the sensors that WW2 and cold war and billion
of dollars of military investigation brought up in just that point -
detect submarines.
If you had to make a list of US navies most loved and trained
scenarios the colombian coke submarine would be on top together with
the arab bomb submarine...
So to speak with carsten where would be your money if you have to bet
- mine would be 99% for the hunter - if you had a AKULA or similar.
Coke and bomb submarines szenarios will keep poping up when it comes
to justify navy and satellite budgets in US congress - but similar to
bigfoot, UFO, Nessi, and company real world is a different case...
Cheers, Wil
(concretesubmarine.com)
Quoting MerlinSub@t-online.de:
Hi Peter,
A friend of mine is a physican. He told me some 15 years ago that
there is a machine in a basement of a University Labatory in
Hamburg. Huge and cooled down with liquied helium for 4000 euro a
month
running cost. And able to detect any nuke sub running under the pole
- and from Hamburg..
And there are satelitts available which meassure the seawave heigh
by graphity..
Other one meassure the deep of the sea bottom by radar.
And I can see wrecks of ships in not so deep water by google eath
satellit pictures..
And they have only 30 % or less resolution of what are possible..
And any harbour can be protected by a simple magnetic loop on the
floor - even the hole Florida coast if nessesary. The harbour of
singapur has that and even Gibraltar has one since 1942!
The US underwatermicrophone system was able to detect the remains
unhappy USS Scorpion over a distance of 3000 sm. And they detect the
explosion of the russian sub also.
I52 was detectet by sonar microphones from a aircraft in 1944 - than
hit by a microphone Torpedo, launched from the same aircraft. The
operator of the aircraft make a tape with the noise of the electric
motors and propellers of the sub, the splasch of the torpedo
launching and the sound of the running torpedo and the sound of the
impact, explosion and suinking of the sub. And i hear that tape on
the internet in 2005!
I myself found yust last year a wreck MIG17 jetaircraft which less
mass and size than Kraka with a side scan sonar woth of about 20.000
and 15 years old.
The found just some years ago a wreck of a uboat of teh norwegian
coastline - on the sidescan pictures you can see even the hatches of
the liferaft containers on there superstructure!
If I today have the chooise between the hunter and the smuggler I
vote 75% for the hunter.
regards Carsten
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