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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Thruster ideas



Michael,

I'm interested in aesthetics as much as anything. I don't want guys having 
to go around with "backward" thrusters.  :-)      People will say....hay man 
that's mounted backwards.!

Props have a hydrodynamic shape.....if you look closely....even the trolling 
motor props do have some what of an arc on their blades in one direction. 
Because of this....the prop will be very efficient in one direction....and 
will just partially work in another (reverse). That is why most trolling 
motors pivot 360 degrees instead of having a reverse direction. A reversible 
prop can be made....but it is a compromise of efficiencies.

James Long
Owner/Designer
Lil Brother LLC (Instrument Division)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael" <subaquamodels@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Thruster ideas


Why does it matter? You could always mount them upside down if it was done
'the wrong way'.

But I think it's only variable pitch props that have this problem. So going
with a fixed pitch one may resolve it.

Michael


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lil Brother LLC" <lil_brother_llc@bellsouth.net>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Thruster ideas


> Well,
>
> It didn't take long....and I've run into a snag.
>
> Here is the problem....and I would like opinions of the best choice....and
> it is a choice.
>
> Props are optimized to thrust in one direction. Which direction would be
> the
> best for thrusters?
>
> I figure forward for a horizontal thruster.....what about a vertical one?
>
> My thinking is ofcourse thrusting (pushing water) down.....giving you an
> upward movement.
>
> This discussion is for fixed thrusters not movable ones. Movable would be
> optimum, but life doesn't always work that way.
>
> If anyone disagrees please let your ideas be known,
>
> James Long
> Owner/Designer
> Lil Brother LLC (Instrument Division)
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lil Brother LLC" <lil_brother_llc@bellsouth.net>
> To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 5:10 PM
> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Thruster ideas
>
>
> I'm working on some ideas....and would like to know how many people would
> be
> interested in the design.
>
> The thrusters will probably start off small, but they should be the
> following (pending research):
>
> 1. Approximately the thrust of the ones used on the K-350.
>
> 2. Magnetically coupled shaft (reduced shaft pressure)
>
> 3. Oil filled. (Greater depth capacity) I know some oils that I believe
> can
> be used that are not environmentally hazardous.
>
> 4. Phased type motors, so the controls will be more complex.
>
> Let me know your thoughts,
>
> James Long
> Owner/Designer
> Lil Brother LLC (Instrument Division)
>
>
>
>
>
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