[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] NR-2 Thruster Arrangement



Joe,

You make a great point about keeping controls simpler. Perhaps there are some different controllers out there that can be put together in such a way as to make one or more of these configurations, easy to pilot. That's a little out of my field of experience at the moment so I don't know.

Looking at your new picture of your sub it took me a second to find the horizontal bow thruster. Since I was thinking you were going to put it ahead of the X-thrusters in the bow. But I like where you put it.

Brent,


From:  "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com>
Reply-To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To:  personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject:  RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] NR-2 Thruster Arrangement
Date:  Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:10:43 +0000
>Brent,
>
>I am assuming, (yet to confirm), that rigging the controls will be
>easier and more intuitive with both fore and aft in the X. Joystick
>left, or joystick right, all four are powered but in different
>directions. Directional control one hand....rate (current flow) the
>other. Joystick back all four thrust downward for rise, joystick
>forward all thrust upward for descent.
>
>Also, for surface maneuvering, I'll get some twisting moment out of
>the aft mains in opposition. Might as well maximize this force
>around the vertical axis with a lateral as far forward as possible.
>I added one here..
>http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=269116&pid=7143130&myphotos=1
>
>Lucky for me, I'll be building all these thrusters and testing them
>in the pool long before, the sub itself!
>
>Incidentally, the only "glue" time I get on the computer, is late at
>night to do CAD work at the expense of my sleep. The rest of the
>time is hit -n- run and, drive by emails!
>
>Thanks for helping me "think" this through, I call it "walking
>design", it's what occupies my mind when walking around.......
>Drives my wife insane!
>
>Joe
>
>
>
>>From: "Brent Hartwig" <brenthartwig@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] NR-2 Thruster Arrangement
>>Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:59:27 -0700
>>
>>
>>Good Morning Joe
>>
>>
>>I caught you glued to the computer again, didn't I? ; )'
>>
>>In regards to the NR-2 thruster arrangement, I was thinking about
>>your aft X thrusters and thought it might perhaps be a better and
>>cheaper arrangement for the aft thrusters to just be the basic one
>>vertical and one horizontal. This way you'll have the use of the
>>horizontal thruster for surface ops, without adding one in addition
>>to the X thrusters in the rear of your sub, like your thinking of
>>doing in the bow.  If I understand correctly, the X thruster
>>arrangement is primarily to limit the debris and mud that would be
>>stirred up even more by a vertical thrust causing you trouble in
>>visibility in you view ports. So since you don't have any stern
>>view ports that I'm aware of I thought the X thruster arrangement
>>might not be the best option for the stern of NR-2.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Brent Hartwig
>>
>>
>>"Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others. "
>>
>>                                                         -- Groucho
>>Marx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>************************************************************************
>>************************************************************************
>>************************************************************************
>>The personal submersibles mailing list complies with the US Federal
>>CAN-SPAM Act of 2003.  Your email address appears in our database
>>because either you, or someone you know, requested you receive
>>messages
>>from our organization.
>>
>>If you want to be removed from this mailing list simply click on
>>the
>>link below or send a blank email message to:
>> removeme-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>
>>Removal of your email address from this mailing list occurs by an
>>automated process and should be complete within five minutes of
>>our server receiving your request.
>>
>>PSUBS.ORG
>>PO Box 53
>>Weare, NH  03281
>>603-529-1100
>>************************************************************************
>>************************************************************************
>>************************************************************************
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>************************************************************************
>************************************************************************
>************************************************************************
>The personal submersibles mailing list complies with the US Federal
>CAN-SPAM Act of 2003.  Your email address appears in our database
>because either you, or someone you know, requested you receive
>messages
>from our organization.
>
>If you want to be removed from this mailing list simply click on the
>link below or send a blank email message to:
> removeme-personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>
>Removal of your email address from this mailing list occurs by an
>automated process and should be complete within five minutes of
>our server receiving your request.
>
>PSUBS.ORG
>PO Box 53
>Weare, NH  03281
>603-529-1100
>************************************************************************
>************************************************************************
>************************************************************************
>
************************************************************************ ************************************************************************ ************************************************************************ The personal submersibles mailing list complies with the US Federal CAN-SPAM Act of 2003. Your email address appears in our database because either you, or someone you know, requested you receive messages from our organization. If you want to be removed from this mailing list simply click on the link below or send a blank email message to: removeme-personal_submersibles@psubs.org Removal of your email address from this mailing list occurs by an automated process and should be complete within five minutes of our server receiving your request. PSUBS.ORG PO Box 53 Weare, NH 03281 603-529-1100 ************************************************************************ ************************************************************************ ************************************************************************