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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Stepped sail design .....opinions?
I have 3D models for humans in inventor.
I can get them to you. I am out of the office this week, but
when I get back.
Thanks,
James Barlow RET
Sr. Mechanical Designer
New Product Development
BJ Pipeline Inspection
www.bjservices.com/inspection
Ph (403) 531-5412
Fax (403) 236-8740
Cell (403) 807-2195
"Stephen Pearce"
<sjpearceqld@bigpond.com>
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Brett
I would love to get a hold of some human
models. Joe uses RHINO, I have inventor 11 pro. I can convert a IGES or
STEP to a file Joe can open.
Regards
Steve Pearce
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]
On Behalf Of Brent Hartwig
Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2007 5:55 AM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Stepped sail design .....opinions?
James,
Ugly as a
dogs butt perhaps, but my dog Harley likes it. ; )' That hull was
just for fun. You win some and loose the rest. In regards to a human
model, I need to do the same thing. Carsten some time back, posted some
human profiles on the Moki picture exchange I was planning to use as a
base to model mine in Solidworks. Obviously Joe has a human model, but
so far we have not figured out how to exchange IGES or STEP files that
work. Perhaps we should try again Joe. Will your CAD program Inventor
except IGES or STEP files. STL files should also work, but they don't
give you as smooth of models as IGES or STEP files. I think you said you
have Solidworks, so why would you want to use Inventor? I'll be interesting
in seeing your model of the swing able half ladder.
Regards,
Brent
From: "Lil Brother LLC" <lil_brother_llc@bellsouth.net>
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Stepped sail design .....opinions?
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:24:45 -0500
Brent,
Yep...that is the basic idea....but I hate
the lines of your sub. It's about as ugly as a dogs butt. (Sorry.....couldn't
resist) I'm a more formal lines type of person. Not to say new shapes and
ideas are not viable or possible, I just like the way the tubular shape
of a sub looks.
I've been working on the design some, but
haven't had a chance to put anything on the web (mainly because I'm not
finished yet).
I know what I could really use....a model
of a person for inventor. I need the representation (movable) to make sure
the sub scales out to the right size.
With the Stepped sail design.....it is important
to know the average shoulder width.......so the person in the top dome
can actually move.
I did decide the pilot (captain, driver,
etc.) will be located in the lower dome......it would be far to hard to
position instrument and controls in the top dome.
Also I'm working on a boarding idea for the
upper dome......like a swingable half ladder. when pressure is put on it.....it
locks in position, then the ladder has spring indents for other positions
when no pressure is on it.
I'm actually trying to incorporate all the
necessary piping and bulkheads ( and such) as I go. I do not have an extensive
library......so some of the items will be just blocks.
James Long
Owner/Designer
Lil Brother LLC (Instrument Division)
----- Original Message -----
From: Brent
Hartwig
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:06 AM
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Stepped
sail design .....opinions?
Greetings James,
It can and has been done.
I would add some thickness to the flange at the angle joint. Here is the
model I just finished of a stepped sail basicly like the one you showed
use. I was just going to build the sail 3D model, but I got carried away.
http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=2628470&pid=7095469
Regards,
Brent Hartwig
"Consistency is the refuge of the unimaginative.
"
- - Oscar Wilde
From: "Lil Brother LLC"
<lil_brother_llc@bellsouth.net>
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Stepped sail design .....opinions?
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:15:44 -0500
>So Joe Perkel and I have been having a thorough discussion.....which
I've
>enjoyed the exchange.
>
>I have some questions about the image that is attached. (Sorry....hated
to
>kill the bandwidth, but didn't know how to le the image be accessible.)
>
>Does the image have a chance to be successful?
>
>Will the angled mounting of the dome hatches cause any structural weakness
>(other than the acrylic dome itself)?
>
>I know anyone who answers is doing so with the best intentions. I know
that
>only real life testing is the only way to know for sure.
>
>My design is only for a depth of 250 ft max.
>
>Also understand.....the drawing is a preliminary......just drawn up
to
>discuss the possible flaws of the idea.
>
>James Long
>Owner/Designer
>Lil Brother LLC (Instrument Division)
><< SteppedSailDesign.jpg >>
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