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The seal barrier fluid I use is propylene glycol / water 50-50 mixture (v:v), -50F Marine/RB antifreeze, 1 US Gal, West Marine, WM#499848, http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?resultCt=1&jspStoreDir=wm51&catalogId=10001&productId=143908&keyword=499848&y=19&x=14&storeId=10001&ddkey=SiteSearch
 
Cliff


----- Original Message ----
From: Chris Burchett <icesynth@gmail.com>
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 12:29:59 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Interest in your project

Hi cliff,

Just wondering what exactly you were using as the environmentally
friendly coolant, as I am designing a similar system but was going to
use an oil based coolant instead. I would much prefer a safer
alternative in case of any leaks :)

Great job on the sub!

Thanks,
--Chris Burchett--

Cliff Redus wrote:
> Brady,
>
> No gear box, this is a high speed impeller and drive train.  Top rpm
> will be around 5000 rpm.  The shaft seal, as a consequence, had to be
> rated for high speed.  I am using a double mechanical seal with the
> barrier fluid being a environmentally friendly coolant.  This coolant is
> passed through a small shell and tube heat exchanger that that uses high
> pressure water from the jet pump to force the water through the heat
> exchanger and then vent  to ambient. The plate HP on the motor is 13 HP
> but for intermittent service, the the motor will put out over 40 break
> hp.  The high voltage/high current wiring for the motor / controller is
> circuit protected at 400 amps to handle this loading.
>
> Cheers!
>  
> Great works are performed not by strength but by perseverance.
> Samuel Johnson
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Brady Burkhart <braydeebee@yahoo.com>
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 11:03:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Interest in your project
>
> Yo Cliff!
>  
> That's a nice looking project you have there.  I was wonderingf if your
> 13 H.P. motor is running thru a gear box, and how many rpm do you expect
> out of the pump at full speed?
>  
> Cheers!
>  
> Brady
>
> */Cliff Redus <cliffordredus@sbcglobal.net>/* wrote:
>
>     Norm,
>
>     To see  fabrication pics for my boat, the R300, go to the frappr
>     link and hit more Cliff Redus' photos.
>
>     http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=2664457&pid=4280217&myphotos=1
>     <http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=2664457&pid=4280217&myphotos=1>
>      
>
>     The initial fabrication of the boat is complete and I have started a
>     series of commissioning test. She has been in the water for the
>     initial tea bag test. For the last 6 months I have been building a
>     house with me son so have not done any further work on the boat.  I
>     hope to be back on the test program after my son and family have
>     moved into their new house.  Initial test confirmed basic buoyancy
>     states and hull/hatch integrity and identified a bad solenoid valve.
>
>
>     The goal of this project was to design a one-man submersible,
>     designated R300, following ABS regulations as much as possible( but
>     not to the point of classing) that would be streamlined to reduce
>     drag and entanglements and have adequate power for maneuverability
>     using control surfaces.  In other words, an underwater jet ski.  I
>     have four years invested to this point, two in design and two in
>     fabrication.
>
>     Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic, over syntactic foam, is used for the
>     hydrodynamic shell that covers the pressure hull. There are two
>     ballast tank systems, main and variable, which are soft and hard
>     respectively. The main ballast tank, comprising tanks forward and
>     aft, are located at the longitudinal center of gravity of the boat.
>     Likewise, the Variable Ballast Tank is also located at the
>     longitudinal center of gravity.  Both the MBT and the VBT are blown
>     with air from four Catalina S-19 scuba tanks, regulated down to 25
>     psi above ambient water pressure.  Longitudinal trim is achieved by
>     hydraulically articulating a sliding lead trim weight. A 120 VDC
>     hydraulic power unit supplies high-pressure hydraulic fluid to power
>     hydraulic cylinders on control surfaces and the hydraulic motor that
>     articulates the trim weight. Boat systems are integrated and
>     controlled through an on board Programmable Logic Controller with a
>     touch screen operator interface. The propulsion system utilizes an
>     axial jet-ski impellor. The jet-ski nozzle is used for pitch and yaw
>     control while wing mounted ailerons are used to control roll.  A 13
>     HP, DC series wound motor, connected to ten 12 VDC deep draft AGM
>     marine batteries, is used to drive the jet-ski impellor. The motor
>     is controlled with a MOSFET DC motor control unit. A drive shaft
>     connects the drive motor to the jet pump.  A hull seal around the
>     drive shaft is a cartridge type double mechanical seal with an
>     glycol coolant acting as a barrier fluid between the seals.
>
>
>     Specifications for the R300 are given below:
>
>     R-300 SPECIFICATIONS  
>     <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->
>     * 24 inch acrylic hemispherical view port * 13 hp DC motor * Jet
>     Impellor * MOSFET DC motor controller * 120 VDC main battery system
>     *24VDC Emergency battery system * Water Hard Variable ballast
>     system  * Drop weight system *  Fly-By-Wire Control System * Air
>     systems * Oxygen system * Carbon Dioxide scrubber * Touch Screen
>     Operator Panel/Display * Carbon dioxide & Oxygen level monitors  *
>     VHF Radio * Alarm and monitoring systems  * Mechanical and
>     electronic depth meters * Electronic compass * Trim and heel
>     indicators * External halogen lights * Fire Extinguisher * Onboard
>     battery chargers  *
>     <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->
>     TECHNICAL DATA
>     <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->
>     MAIN DIMENSIONS        
>                
>     Length  19 ft
>     Beam   6.5 ft
>     Height  4.1 ft
>     Draft    31 in
>     Pressure Hull diameter             30 inches
>     Pressure Hull material            ASTM A516 Grade 70
>     Pressure Hull thickness            0.25 inches
>     Dry weight (excluding payload and pilot)    4,214 lbs
>     Operational depth    300 ft
>     Payload capacity (including pilot)            232 lbs
>     Drop weight             300 lbs
>     Crew    1
>     <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->
>     PROPULSION & POWER SUPPLY        
>     <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->
>     Jet pump            Jet pump, axial flow, single stage
>     DC motor            13 hp DC motor with MOSFET motor controller
>     Main batteries             10 @100 Ah / 120VDC
>     Emergency battery 2 @100 Ah / 24VDC
>     Battery endurance             7 hrs (normal operation)
>     Emergency battery endurance             72 hrs (hotel load only)
>     <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->
>     GAS SYSTEMS      
>     <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->
>     Main ballast - Soft      7.6  scf
>     Variable ballast - Hard  1.8 scf
>     Air       76 scf / 207 bar
>     Oxygen             78 scf / 139 bar
>     Oxygen endurance             7+72 hrs
>     Reserve of Buoyancy            10.7%
>     <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->
>     PERFORMANCE      
>     <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]-->
>     Normal speed            7 knots (8 mph) for 8 hrs
>     Max speed            20+ knots for 9 minutes
>     Range   66 miles (normal operations)
>     <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]-->
>
>
>     Cliff
>
>
>     ----- Original Message ----
>     From: Norman <nparmley@suddenlink.net>
>     To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>     Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:18:51 PM
>     Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Interest in your project
>
>     Cliff Redus:
>
>     Hi,
>     Cliff can I get more info on your project.  It looks vry interesting.
>
>     Norm Parmley
>
>
>
>
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